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hayman 
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I see they are both on sale in the paper are they both good?  I'm looking for a basic one to start my 1998 pontiac transport.    Which has better instructiosn and web support for finding and locating the needed wires???  

I installed the ProStart and some other brand  back in the early 90's but back then product support was poor and you were on your own when it came to figuring things out.   Been away from the trade for years and was wondering if these remote car starter manufactures have improved any with fixes, tips  and trouble shooting help?

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in my expreiance (i nistalled a bull dog in a 96 grand charokkee) it was very easy, and it had good instuctions, on-line and with it.  But the way things are today i think that all componys have evalved in the way of consumer conveniance/help. so, i dont think that there is a real difference, its just a mater of personal prefference

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Personally I don't think so. I refuse to install the Pro Start systems from Canadian Tire and Bulldog units from Wal-Mart are usually sent back to them for repair in my experiences. I'd rather not waste the customer's time and sell them a Compustar for reliability and for myself ease of installation.
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I would agree with Velocity on this point.  These two type of car starter are not reliable.....I personally would not install these units because I know I will have to replace them shortly.  Not worth my time or my customer's time!

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Good grief I did some searching on the net and there must be 50 or more different car starter companies out there!!!

I found out what other brand I used to install and it was the autoCommand by Designtech.  I remember a few of  those gave as some greif especailly the earlier ones.  The company made you open them up and take out diodes and what not!  The ProStarts were cheaper but a bit easier to install when doing  a simple install.

I'm no expert I was an Auto tech and we did them on flat rate and it got to be that we didn't  like to bother.  It's not like we did them every day, sure once you did a certain make of car next time it was easy but when you get a different car every time it wasn't so  great!  What was really fun is when some customer tried to do it first then gave up and  brought  you in  a mess of wires to figure out and put back correctly! ! Some people really should not be allowed to work under the dash of cars!! 

So what are some of the "better" brands out now a days if the Prostarts &  Bulldogs are on the bottom end of the scale? From surfing the web is seems there is some good and negative on them all.

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We install AstroFlex/Astrostart Remote starters. They seems to last quite well and tech support isnt to bad. They have all bypass modules for newer vehicles and the manual is clearly labeled for install purposes. the back of the module also contains the wire pin out circuits on a large sticker.
Even thnough I hate installing remote starts this is one I can recommend. Around 125-150 canadian
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we sell & install Clifford, Autostart, Compustar, Valet & Avital... all are of a great quality and reliability...... and may be brands you want to take a look at....

i always ask my customers " you didnt buy a cheap car, why do you want a cheap remote starter?"

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If I remeber right ProStart and AstroStart  used to be the same thing made by the same company  just boxed different. I remeber I had a guy bring an Astrostart in to intall and  when I opened the box  I was surpised to see it was just like the Prostarts I had put in.  Had the same hardware and instructions too I think.

This would have been back in  around 1995 they may have changed now.

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actually Pro Start is made by AutoStart..... not Astro

and Autostart is our entry level unit... we usually sell up to better quality from there.....

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Well, I refuse to install the Bullfrog's and I have had good success with the Cambodian Tire units. That said though, they come with 1 remote and a basic warranty. Get yourself a Compustar 1wams with a limited lifetime warranty and two remotes. It is a far superior system, easier install and great tech support from guys like us.
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