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toothdr 
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Do I need an additional relay to get remote door lock\unlock to function? It wont operate at all.  I have a type C system. Can I hook up the orange accesory wire from the remote start harness to both of my accessory wires from the ignition switch or do I need a relay to hook to the additonal accessory wire.  Right now when I remote start the blower works but not the air conditioning compressor.  Thanks

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Posted: October 01, 2006 at 4:38 PM / IP Logged  
Use a relay for second accs. The locks: you need one for lock, and one for unlock (relays that is)
shaggy12volt 
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you need 2 realys for the locks one for lock and one foe unlock or get a 451m.  how did you wire up you ingtion wires? you have two of them that you need to hook up

WIRING INFORMATION - FORD / F SERIES LIGHT DUTY / 1997 / Remote Start

12volts yellow and lt. gren/purple  +  ignition harness
Starter RED / lt. blue  +  ignition harness
Second Starter     
Ignition dk. blue/lt. green  +  ignition harness
Second Ignition gray / YELLOW  +  ignition harness
Third Ignition lt. blue/pink  +  ignition harness
Notes: Power this wire if vehicle is equipped with only rear anti-lock brakes. Vehicles with all wheel anti-lock brakes do not have this wire.
Accessory RED / black  +  ignition harness
Second Accessory BLACK/ green  +  ignition harness
Keysense     
Power Lock pink / YELLOW    passenger kick panel
Notes: Negative pulse, type B, on keyless entry models. Five wire, type C, on non-keyless models, mastered from the driver switch.
Power Unlock pink/green    passenger kick panel
Notes: Negative pulse, type B, on keyless entry models. Five wire, type C, on non-keyless models, mastered from the driver switch.
Lock Motor pink/black  5wi driver kick panel
Unlock Motor RED / orange  5wi driver kick panel
Parking Lights+ brown  +  headlight switch
Notes: May also be found at trailer connector next to diagnostic connector under dash.
Parking Lights- lt. GREEN/ YELLOW  -  headlight switch
Notes: If equipped with autolamps.
Hazards     
Turn Signal(L)     
Turn Signal(R)     
Reverse Light BLACK/ pink  +  gray harness under air filter
Door Trigger BLACK / YELLOW(D), BLACK/ pink(P) -  each kick, door harness
Notes: The BLACK / YELLOW catches the driver door and the BLACK/ pink catches the passenger door. Use both wires and diode isolate each. See DirectFax document 1076 for wiring information. Both wires may also be found at the GEM module located above the fuse box. On models without a dome light delay use ORANGE / lt. green (-) at the headlight switch.
Dome Supervision BLACK/ lt.blue  +  passenger kick panel
Trunk/Hatch Pin     
Hood Pin     
Trunk/Hatch Release     
Power Sliding Door     
Factory Alarm Arm see notes    
Notes: Arms when locked with the door open. To simulate, send a negative trigger to the lt. blue/white wire at the RAP module, located behind the light switch, while locking.
Factory Alarm Disarm dk. GREEN/ purple  -  driver kick panel
Disarm No Unlock     
Tachometer WHITE/ pink  ac  PCM
Notes: The powertrain control module (PCM) is located on passenger side of engine compartment, to the passenger side of the battery, below the hood stay. It has a single 104 pin connector on it. Locate the WHITE/ pink at pin number 48 of the connector.
Wait to start     
Brake Wire lt. green  +  brake pedal switch
Notes: May also be found at trailer connector next to diagnostic connector under dash.
Parking Brake     
Horn Trigger dk. blue  -  steering column
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toothdr 
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Posted: October 01, 2006 at 5:39 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks very much but can you be more specific.  My wiring diagram shows two accessory wires, one gray\yellow and the other red\black.  I have the orange accessory which feeds the climate control from the alarm connected to the gray\yellow and the other pink\white which the manual says is the second accesory\ignition wire connected to the red\black.  I can remotely program the second pink\white wire to be either second ignition or accessory.  I think I have it programmed correctly.  As I said earlier only the blower works not the a\c.  If I use a standard spdt relay should my connections be as follows?  Orange wire from alarm to 85terminal, 12volt constant and fused to 30 and 86 terminals and the 87 terminal to the first (gray\yellow accesory wire on the ignition?  Finally on the door locks I have one blue and one green wire from the alarm.  How do I add relays and what are the connections?  Do I need to cut the lock \ unlock wires.  Sorry to be asking for such specifics but there is alot I need to learn.  Thanks again.  
shaggy12volt 
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Posted: October 01, 2006 at 6:21 PM / IP Logged  

you have two thick red  & RED / white wires these go toone to each of them yellow and lt. gren/purple on yout trucks ignition harness 

your thick pink goes to dk. blue/lt. green Ing. 1 @ignition harness

your thick pink/wihte  goes to gray / YELLOW Ing. 2 @ignition harness

your thick orange wire goes to  RED / black  ACC 1 @ ignition harness

your thick purple  wire goes to the starter side of the starter side of the wire you cut RED / lt. blue

your thick Green wire goes to key side of the starter wire that you cut  RED / lt. blue

take your 2nd acc wire from your brain small orange wire to 85 - 87 to BLACK/ green 2ACC on you truck 86 & 30 to 12volts

hornet 564t, 1997 ford f-150 -- posted image.

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shaggy12volt 
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toothdr wrote:
Finally on the door locks I have one blue and one green wire from the alarm.  How do I add relays and what are the connections?  Do I need to cut the lock \ unlock wires.  Sorry to be asking for such specifics but there is alot I need to learn.  Thanks again.  

and as for your door lock go here you go hornet 564t, 1997 ford f-150 -- posted image.

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toothdr 
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Posted: October 01, 2006 at 8:51 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, I have the orange and pink\white wires reversed from what you are showing.  I understand in your drawing (by the way those are incredible) everything but the 85 and 87 terminals.  Is the trigger wire coming from my alarm, if so is it the same large orange wire I connected to the red\black wire at the ignition harness?  If not where does the wire come from.  The 12volt output goes to black\green?  Do you know where I would find this wire?  Is this supposed to be black\lt green.  I see that wire goes to my blower relay.  Thanks again, this should be the last time I should have to ask. 
shaggy12volt 
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Posted: October 01, 2006 at 9:16 PM / IP Logged  

toothdr wrote:
Ok, I have the orange and pink\white wires reversed from what you are showing.  I understand in your drawing (by the way those are incredible) everything but the 85 and 87 terminals.  Is the trigger wire coming from my alarm, if so is it the same large orange wire I connected to the red\black wire at the ignition harness?  If not where does the wire come from.  The 12volt output goes to black\green?  Do you know where I would find this wire?  Is this supposed to be black\lt green.  I see that wire goes to my blower relay.  Thanks again, this should be the last time I should have to ask. 

the triger wire comes off your brain it is a thin orange wire on you satalitie relay pack (you should have a blue,orange,violet,pink wires there the orange is your (-) output) take it to 85 on the relay take 87 to BLACK/ green in you ingtion harness.  use a thicker wire on 14g or 12g 30 & 86 go to 12 volt (+) use thicker wires on these 14g or 12g and fuse them with a 30amp fuse.

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