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eireal 
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Posted: July 11, 2007 at 4:48 AM / IP Logged  
Hi Guys
Wondering if i could get some pointers
Installing a clifford arrow 5 in a 99 JDM import celica,probed the suspect wires which read 12v constant and - at flash,so attached the WHITE/ red light flash wire from the alarm to ground but im not getting flash on arm or disarm.
Anyone shed any light?
Thanks
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Posted: July 11, 2007 at 10:41 AM / IP Logged  
did you attach both white wires to your parking light wire?
rtfm
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Posted: July 11, 2007 at 10:46 AM / IP Logged  
h1/h1/12 WHITE/ red light flash input
This wire is the input for the on-board dual light flash relay.
If the vehicle haspositive parking light activation wires,connect
this wire to a (+) 12V source that is fused at 15A or higher
(be sure to use the supplied fuse holder and a 15A fuse). If the
vechile parking light activation wire is negetive, connect this wire
to a chassis ground location
h1/13 and h1/14 white parking light output
These wires are the output of an on-board dual make relay and should
be connected to the wires in the vehicle that control the parking light
wire polarity. The dual outputs are designed for european vehicles with
isolated parking light systems. If the vehicle's parking lights are
controlled by a single wire,connect both WHITE wires to it.
IMPORTANT! The polarity of this wire is determined by the
connection of the h1/12 light flash input wire.
Always confirm light flash polarity before
connecting h1/12 or damage to the vehicle
lighting system could occur.
that is word for word out of the install manual.
hope it helps ya out!
rtfm
eireal 
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Posted: July 11, 2007 at 12:32 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks spookiestylez,i have the install manual but still no joy.
Just to go over it,i grounded h12 and attached h13/h14 to each of the wires (gr/yl,gr/bl) but im not getting any flash
eireal 
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Posted: July 12, 2007 at 10:41 AM / IP Logged  
Tried a different alarm brain just to be certain it wasnt the alarm and still have the same problem
Anyone else have any ideas?
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Posted: July 12, 2007 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged  

if you're tagging the (-) parking light wire at the steering column harness, you should be able to tap it to ground to get the parking lights to go on.  If you do NOT see the parking lights going on when you tap this wire to ground, you have the wrong wire OR you're using a poor ground.

Worse case scenario, you can connect the h12 to 12 volts fused (15 amps) and then connect the h13/14 wires to the back of the parking lights (in the engine bay).  You'd connect one to the left parking light, and the other to the right parking light.  this would of course require more work, i.e. drilling through the firewall, use of a rubber grommet, use of wire looming to heat/grease shield the wiring going to the parking lights, and tapping into the parking light 12 volts positive wires behind TWO parking lights in the engine bay.

You SHOULD however be able to re-confirm the parking light negative wires at the steering column harness (there is only ONE wire in the US model '99 Celica and it's light green (-)). I'm not sure of the JDM Celica, however.  You'll have to re-test all the steering column harness wires.

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howie ll 
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Posted: July 13, 2007 at 2:41 PM / IP Logged  
Stop it you're all running around in circles, is 99 latest shape, if so, green /black and green / yellow in loom in cenre console, if earlier shape go for loom coming from steering column, wire white red to pos source. UK specs  on latest shape have a white "alarm connection" plug underneath heater controls with everything needed on it.
eireal 
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Posted: July 16, 2007 at 6:32 AM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Stop it you're all running around in circles, is 99 latest shape, if so, green /black and green / yellow in loom in cenre console, if earlier shape go for loom coming from steering column, wire white red to pos source. UK specs on latest shape have a white "alarm connection" plug underneath heater controls with everything needed on it.
Its new shape jap import howie and there the wires ive tagged too
Ive tried changing the whi/red ground location and still no joy
howie ll 
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Let us think:- Jap-Uk only differences, speedo klics against MPH,  rear fog  on UK and joke FM 76-91Mhz. on Jap. If you remove radio and heater controls from centre console, you have a fuse and body control box. Sit in the passenger seat and look to the right over fuse box. It should have a white plug with everything on it, locks indicators, door and trunk contact power ign etc. If not the leads you want will be in the main loom running  back  past fuse box towards parking break and lock button. Everything bar ign cuts, starter cuts and siren feeds should be accessed from there.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 16, 2007 at 1:11 PM / IP Logged  
Second thought, WHITE/ red must come from a PERMANENT 12v+ source, I justb realised you said you were grounding it! NO NO NO These indicator wires are POSITIVE!
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