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skostur79 
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Posted: November 18, 2007 at 6:13 PM / IP Logged  

im having trouble programing a 04 caravan with the 556cw

i get pass the two keys  use the wait to start enabling ,start system  holding chip

at the lock cylinder but  unable to get a learned light

i try  with enabling the 556cw relay and using a open key/fob to try learn the chip  but no go

any problems with the 556cw ?  could i have bad one

thanks for you help

extreme1 
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Posted: November 18, 2007 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged  
could it have already been programmed before? they are a one shot deal, once programmed they will never work in another vehicle.
Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
skostur79 
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Posted: November 18, 2007 at 8:16 PM / IP Logged  

i was new out of box

so the chip will program before the vehicle will?

i guess ill have to get a hold of one more  ,

and other bypass work easy and reliable ?

thanks

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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 8:56 AM / IP Logged  
the other thing is chrysler can lock transponder programming out, mostly done on fleet vehicle and rentals.
something else to consider.
I will always program those before I even start the remote starter install.
my method is, key 1 on until security light goes out, key two on until light goes out and comes back on flashing. while waiting for that, I will have disassembled the first key so it's just the plastic, as well I will have the pellet energized.
once the LED starts flashing, I will insert the first key, mount the pellet about where the origonal one would have sat, and turn the key on, wait until LED illuminates solid.
Shaughn Murley
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Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
skostur79 
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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 6:45 PM / IP Logged  

well i ended up with the unversial dei  box

key fob in the box   it works

so ill just order some keys anyway

thanks

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Posted: November 19, 2007 at 11:09 PM / IP Logged  
extreme1 wrote:
the other thing is chrysler can lock transponder programming out, mostly done on fleet vehicle and rentals.
something else to consider.
I will always program those before I even start the remote starter install.
my method is, key 1 on until security light goes out, key two on until light goes out and comes back on flashing. while waiting for that, I will have disassembled the first key so it's just the plastic, as well I will have the pellet energized.
once the LED starts flashing, I will insert the first key, mount the pellet about where the origonal one would have sat, and turn the key on, wait until LED illuminates solid.
by pallet energized, do you mean the actual 555cw red and blue wires to power and ground?
Kenny
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KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
extreme1 
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offroadzj wrote:
extreme1 wrote:
the other thing is chrysler can lock transponder programming out, mostly done on fleet vehicle and rentals.
something else to consider.
I will always program those before I even start the remote starter install.
my method is, key 1 on until security light goes out, key two on until light goes out and comes back on flashing. while waiting for that, I will have disassembled the first key so it's just the plastic, as well I will have the pellet energized.
once the LED starts flashing, I will insert the first key, mount the pellet about where the origonal one would have sat, and turn the key on, wait until LED illuminates solid.
by pallet energized, do you mean the actual 555cw red and blue wires to power and ground?
yes, i use an old 13.2V drill battery I have lying around.
Shaughn Murley
Install Manager, Dealer Services
Visions Electronics
Red Deer, Alberta
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Posted: November 20, 2007 at 8:07 PM / IP Logged  
i'll have to try that from now on. There is nothing worse than getting everything finished, tucked away and all set, then finding out that the chip wont program. Then you gotta completely undo everything and then change out the bypass.
Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
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I hate bypasses that are screwed up before you try to put them in. I did a new GMC Canyon and my boss gave me a xko6 with new firmware flashed. It wouldn't work. I tried another one made by Omega, same unit and same issue. I asked my boss if it mattered if what platform it was in mattered and he said no. I think he was wrong. So I wired up the two relays with resistor and diode method and it worked like a champ. I do say most work without much hassle but some, a tad frustrating.
The wire I'm test'n isn't doin' what it's supposed to be doin'... I am so glad I printed that tech sheet, with the wrong info.
Do it right the first time... or I might have to fix it for ya

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