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daffy63 
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Posted: October 05, 2011 at 4:29 PM / IP Logged  

Hello

Was wondering if anyone knows this relay? It has been picked out of a boat and I think it was connected to the wiper (not that I'll say it with 100% certainty). Need diagram of the relay or an explanation of which contacts are to what? There has been a label on the relay but the marking is gone and none of the contact points are marked either! I found the digram for the "litle" Song Chuan relay, but it does not help me much since the terminals are fused togheter with the rest of the relay and not visible.

unknown relay? -- posted image.

unknown relay? -- posted image.

unknown relay? -- posted image.

howie ll 
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Posted: October 05, 2011 at 4:56 PM / IP Logged  
It's a standard SPST relay, equivalent to all of the Tycho/Bosch/Omron/Panasonic automotive relays, all the same therefore substitution is easy.
oldspark 
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Posted: October 05, 2011 at 10:54 PM / IP Logged  
As to the entire module...
howie ll 
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Posted: October 06, 2011 at 12:41 AM / IP Logged  
Yes well I was trying to ignore it. Looks like it may be either a (rusty) heat sink or a (rusty) grounding strip.
oldspark 
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Posted: October 06, 2011 at 3:43 AM / IP Logged  
Now that I re-read, "fused contacts" implies the relay, hence any typical 30A relay should do (of the "Hella/Bosch" type).
I was dreading that the module contained the intermittent etc circuit.
And I mis-read, the OP was clever enough to mean the relay and not the module.
I was dumb enough to have my 2nd (or 3rd?) D'oh! an as many weeks unknown relay? -- posted image.
(Have I been going down hill since that VAG Jetronic fuel pump relay thread??! I've been infected by a [sensitive] moron?)
howie ll 
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Posted: October 06, 2011 at 3:50 PM / IP Logged  
Yes it rathert blew my my mind.
howie ll 
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Posted: October 06, 2011 at 4:58 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry about that last one, sent from my smartphone (?) whilst standing outside a pub.
That thread and his attitude threw not only you and me, the moderators locked it, he just had a bee in his bonnet about the fuel pump and wouldn't either listen or test.
oldspark 
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Posted: October 06, 2011 at 6:59 PM / IP Logged  
Yeah - I was spewing at first after it was locked - I wanted to solve the problem.
The I realised how bad the whole thing was... like so much verbiage for so little gain (though IMO we were finally getting somewhere, but the relay was not the issue...).
So moderators saved me pages of time, and another mistaken offense (he seemed paranoicly sensitive).    
But imagine the income to the industry if I could have continued.
He could have blown a plethora of other electricals! (Honestly, how do you "blow" a relay, except by dead short or over-current across closed contacts, or reverse polarity to internal electronics?)
With apologies to daffy63 for this hijack. I'm all vented now.
Besides, hopefully we solved your issue/problem.
howie ll 
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Posted: October 07, 2011 at 2:58 AM / IP Logged  
In 40 years of "sparking" I've only come across 2 dead relays, a Ford Escort and Porsche 911 both funnily enough of the same generic type as the poster (injection primer).
End of again, sorry daffy6
oldspark 
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Posted: October 07, 2011 at 3:20 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry daffy63 x2. Or is it x4 now?
But Howie's experience with that relay's reliability shows how invalid my concerns about its complexity - and hence reliability - were, and that in conjunction with the Jetronic makes a good overall design.
But I guess we all win... What does that say about someone that claims they blew TWO of those relays...
The Mods stopping me probably saved a life - or a neighborhood. Somehow he'd cause a spark whilst the fuel-pump was pumping with a open fuel tank just as the Exxon Valdez cruised past....

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