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rotarypower101 
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Posted: July 27, 2006 at 8:14 PM / IP Logged  
Single momentary pulse to toggle on/off circuit
Hi guys bringing this back from the dead….
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=60405&KW=momentary
Can someone confirm that this method works?
I need a single momentary pulse to turn on and off a device, but I want the circuit to require no power while off.
Is this accomplished with this circuit? I have found no specifics or details from searching, or part numbers used.
Has someone that has built and tested this, confirm that it can work and with which component part numbers used.
from:
https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp
“Single Pulse to Lock and Unlock Using a mechanical latching relay like the PCB latching relay pictured below on the left, you can use a single negative output to alternately lock and unlock the doors. The mechanical latching relay only requires it's coil to be momentarily energized to change and maintain the opening or closing of it's contacts. The SPDT relay will provide a dedicated negative output for lock when the coil is energized and a dedicated output for unlock when it is not energized.”
Single momentary pulse to toggle on/off -- posted image.Single momentary pulse to toggle on/off -- posted image.
josh1979 
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Posted: July 28, 2006 at 11:39 PM / IP Logged  
i do not have a part # fot the mechanical latching relay but yes the wireing  is correct
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rotarypower101 
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Posted: July 29, 2006 at 11:40 AM / IP Logged  
Thank you for taking the time to reply Josh.
I have built this (unsuccessfully) but am having trouble finding the mechanical latching relay that would be compatible with this circuit.
Could I persuade someone into helping me locate a correct part number?
From the thread mentioned, there is a picture with an “OEG” relay, with numbers OUAZ-SS-112D. Does this relay have any significance from the basic schematic shown on this site since it appears to me to be different?
Single momentary pulse to toggle on/off -- posted image.
Single momentary pulse to toggle on/off -- posted image.
I have asked the local electronics supply house for a mechanical latching relay that would work in this schematic that I brought to them but have been unable to come away with a working relay.
I have built this with a magnetic latching relay, but it needs to reverse the coil poles in order to work properly I believe.
It there a mechanical latching relay that exists that will change the input coil charge and return the contacts from initial position (locked) [momentary push] to 2ndary position (locked) [momentary push] and back to initial position? Using one momentary push button, and require no power to maintain its position while in the off position?
If this helps describe the operation I seek, as it seems to have confused a few people I have talked to.
Thank you for any help completing this seemingly simple task!
rotarypower101 
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Posted: July 29, 2006 at 11:48 AM / IP Logged  
I have asked and specified to my supplier that I need a relay that will LOCK into position and stay until the next momentary pulse, but I was told that this is not made, is this true?
Custom_Jim 
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Posted: July 29, 2006 at 1:45 PM / IP Logged  

A latching relay from Aamp Of America might be what you are looking for. Model # PBLATCH.

This relay has a spring loaded solenoid that when 12 volts and ground are applied to the coil it pulls in the solenoids pin downward and an arm off of it contacts a nylon "V" shaped arm and throws another arm off of some mircro switches one way. When 12 volts or ground are removed from the coil the solenoid pin extends back up by a small spring but the micro switches stay set in their configuration (one set has a set of contacts closed while the other has an open set). When a second signal is sent to the coil the solenoids pin is again pulled downward and makes contact with the nylon "V" shaped arm and sets the micro switches to the opposite way. Now the micro switch that had the normally closed contacts closed is now switched to the normally open contacts and visaversa on the other switch. In the picture links below I had this latching relay wired to an actuator for a power trunk lid lift/closer. 

The only problem I've encountered with this style switch is you need to mount the relay assembly with the spring loaded solenoid pin horizontally. If mounted vertically the weight of it and a good bump could allow the relay to switch to the other way.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/503334311/2817923600060464735lLXMwC

http://community.webshots.com/photo/503334311/2299963980060464735WkyGvu

Jim 

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