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rodriik 
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What is the best/simplest way to invert from + to -?
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Convert a Positive Output to a Negative Output
If you have a switch or an alarm or keyless entry that has a positive output that you wish to use to switch a device that requires a ground such as a horn, dome light, parking lights, head lights, hatch release, etc., wire a relay as shown below to convert the positive output (trigger) to a negative output.
best way to convert positive to negative? - Last Post -- posted image.
Here's the same configuration showing a positive output from an alarm or remote keyless entry used to activate a vehicle's parking light relay that requires a ground to turn the lights on.
best way to convert positive to negative? - Last Post -- posted image.
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rodriik 
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Thanks.  What's the best way to do it without a relay?  This is in the cab and I don't want the clicking noise.

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rodriik wrote:
What is the best/simplest way to invert from + to -?

GET A WIFE!

LOL

If you fail on your first attempt, at least destroy all evidence you tried!
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That last post was a classic, second, Mr. Idiot "ex master installer" what's the way to do it using transistors please, ie pos to neg and vice versa? Email me if you can't post it here.
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Howie, the things that you remember me posting were simple current amplifying devices.  They are used for bluetooth modules that do not have enough current capacity to trigger a relay.  Also used in some newer databus cars.  There is sometimes not enough current to get an ignition source.  If you connect a relay to the wire at the ignition switch, it freaks the car out.  I do not know of a simple way to convert polarity with a transistor.  I will make a call and see what I can find out for you. 

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Wouldn't it be easier to just mount the relay in the engine compartment and run the output wire into the cab?
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Hmm. I thought only relays can convert a + to a -.

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