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y2j514 
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Ok so I want to use a relay on my remote wire from my HU to turn on my amplifiers and a few fans. I want to diode protect the relay to avoid the voltage spike that happens with the instant flicking of the coil.
I know you must place the diode across the relay with the cathode (striped side) facing the positive side of the coil. I am just wondering what rating of a diode I need?
I have a 15 volt 1/2 Watt diode lying around - any good?
Thanks
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Do not use a Zener diode.  With the rating you gave, that appears to be a Zener.  You need a 1N400X, where X is any number from 1 to 7
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You're absolutely right. It is a Zener diode. Thanks for the input. If you don't mind, otherwise I can just google it, what exactly is the difference between these 2 diodes?
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Description of diode at the top of the following page.  Zener diode description about 1/3 way down the page.

http://www.bcae1.com/diodes.htm

y2j514 
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Thank you. So since I have to go out and buy a diode - do you recommend one more than the other? In terms of X being 1 to 7.
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The 4001 is rated at 50 volts, the others are rated at higher voltages.  For automotive applications none will be any better than the other.  Whatever you can find will work.
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The 1N4004 (400V) seems to be the most common with 4007 (1000V) close by - the others seem to have bee dropped (at least here under).
Usually 200V or higher is chosen for automotive applications...
y2j514 
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Ok, so I've been doing some reading around and I'm worried that the fans will make too much noise when I play the music at a quieter level.
I know using a thermisistor is possible - although even using bcae1 I have no idea how to do it. I can follow the logic pretty well - I just cant 100% read the diagram on bcae1.
I doubt this is an option but is there a way to simply make the fans spin faster as the volume increases? Like using an splicing an RCA cable from the HU or something?
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The wire labeled to active speaker terminal connects to a bridged speaker wire of a multichannel amp, or the positive terminal of a mono amp.

http://www.bcae1.com/temp/speakerlevelfancontroller01.gif

Save the image to your harddrive. I have no idea how long it will stay on his server.

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diode protected relay -- posted image.

All parts are available at Radio Shack.  The 6 or 7 digit numbers are radio shack part numbers.  The resistors are 1/4 watt or 1/2 watt. whatever they have in stock.  The cap should be 16 volts or higher. 

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