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capi 
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Posted: February 12, 2013 at 7:14 AM / IP Logged  
Hi experts,
Finally, I bought a car alarm spy F10S; and I have differents doubts.
I attach two screenshot which red circle where I have problems:
doubts, spy f10s alarm -- posted image.
doubts, spy f10s alarm -- posted image.
1 - What is the point connecting the ON STR and lock the car? Does it have to do with the remote start? If so, if I do not connect it because I do not want to use the remote start could be any problem.
2 - My closing is positive, where do I have to connect the white wire and the white / black?
3 - My closing is positive, what's that blue cable that comes up and where I have to connect the cable?
4 - What is the difference between STR, ON and ACC?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
howie ll 
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Posted: February 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM / IP Logged  
Could you print all the wiring plus your car details having said that the product is IMO a POS.
Oh wait isn't this the Toyota?
If so your locks are NEG.
And of course forget any real range but then you get what you pay for.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM / IP Logged  
Plug 6 P refers to the R/S outputs, only connect the 12V+ constants and the ON.
The lock diagram as circled but the 2 wires connect to NEG not POS input.
At the bottom, you want the NEG door trigger wire connect to the domelight in the car, the wire that switches to ground (=earth, = massa, = (-)) when you open a door.
capi 
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howie ll wrote:
Plug 6 P refers to the R/S outputs, only connect the 12V+ constants and the ON.
The lock diagram as circled but the 2 wires connect to NEG not POS input.
At the bottom, you want the NEG door trigger wire connect to the domelight in the car, the wire that switches to ground (=earth, = massa, = (-)) when you open a door.
Hi again howie ll...
I know, I think I bought a very normal alarm, I hope more or less good results; I want spend this money... could be, I will regret.
I have in pdf all wires of my car, but I do not how can put here.
My car is a Toyota, are you sure the connection of the door and the lock is negative? One friend told me that the lock were positive.
The 1st circle, where appear the Plug 6 P; I will not connect the STR, have I to connect to 12V+ and 12V- constant? Or only 12V+? Can I connect the ON to the ACC?
The 2nd circle, where I have to connect the other 2 wire?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
howie ll 
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Posted: February 12, 2013 at 4:20 PM / IP Logged  
Get Modric back to us at Tottenham Hotspur and I will help.
Never known a Toyota to have anything but NEG locks, NEVER listen to friends.
Yes to 12V+, 12V- and ON (= Ign)
The second circle the other two wires marked NC, ORANGE and ORANGE / BLACK aren't connected.
My email address is on my profile, please email me the pdf.
capi 
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howie ll wrote:
Get Modric back to us at Tottenham Hotspur and I will help.
Never known a Toyota to have anything but NEG locks, NEVER listen to friends.
Yes to 12V+, 12V- and ON (= Ign)
The second circle the other two wires marked NC, ORANGE and ORANGE / BLACK aren't connected.
My email address is on my profile, please email me the pdf.
ok... I will connect to NEG.
Is the ON the same of ACC? Can I connect to ACC or is different?
The 2nd circle; marked with NC aren´t connected; YELLOW and YELLOS/BLACK are connected to NEG; and what happend with the other two?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2013 at 3:08 AM / IP Logged  
No ignore ACC, you're looking at a wire which goes live on position 2 of the switch and STAYS live whilst cranking.
The other two go to the lock/unlock triggers on the car.
capi 
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Posted: February 13, 2013 at 3:19 AM / IP Logged  

howie ll wrote:
No ignore ACC, you're looking at a wire which goes live on position 2 of the switch and STAYS live whilst cranking.
The other two go to the lock/unlock triggers on the car.

Ok, so... I will have to look for the ON, because I do not know this wire...

The other two, how can know what of them go to lock and the other to unlock? Or it does not matter?

Regards,

howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2013 at 3:25 AM / IP Logged  
You buy a Digital Multimeter and TEST.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 5:43 AM / IP Logged  
ALARM     CAR     LOCATION
6P
Brown     BLACK/ red     Fuse junction box left of steering column or ignition loom
Red     Thick white     Ditto
Black     Grounding Bolt     Any M6 (10mm) bolt to body nr to above, use a ring terminal
12P
Yellow     Grounding bolt     Join to above
Yellow/black     Ditto     Ditto
White*     BROWN / white     Kick panel or fuse junction box LOCK (-) Alt. Blue/red
WHITE/ black*     GREEN / WHITE     Ditto UNLOCK (-) Alternative Blue.
Brown     GREEN / WHITE     Steering column loom
Brown     GREEN/ YELLOW     Ditto
RED / Black Don’t use unless you find the motor wire**
TEST EVERYTHING!!!!
The factory diagrams are over complicated and the install diagram is a joke!
There appears to be no hood (bonnet) pin input either.
In all honestly I could have tested for and done the wiring in less time than it took me to produce this.
*The install diagram doesn’t specify which one is lock and which is unlock!
** Won’t work the RED / yellow car wire, that’s NEG.
If an electric (solenoid) trunk (boot) release is factory fitted, take the red and black to the motor (+) wire.
Very poor product, no provision for NEG trunk release or NEG indicators which would be much easier on your car, light green at the Hazard switch.
Give Modric back to us.
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