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howie ll 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:37 PM / IP Logged  
And here's another but you won't be using all of the terminals:-
https://www.radioshack.com/nte54-118-15a-snap-in-nylon-rocker-momentary-switch/55050533.html#start=40&sz=12
And now for a blast of common sense:-
1) If you can set your alarm for auto-lock why in the name of heaven do you need a switch?
2) Doesn't your alarm give you an installation guide showing you how to wire relays for locks?
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:50 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
And here's another but you won't be using all of the terminals:-
https://www.radioshack.com/nte54-118-15a-snap-in-nylon-rocker-momentary-switch/55050533.html#start=40&sz=12
And now for a blast of common sense:-
1) If you can set your alarm for auto-lock why in the name of heaven do you need a switch?
2) Doesn't your alarm give you an installation guide showing you how to wire relays for locks?
Okay to answer your questions.. I was not plannin on using a switch its pointless in a 2 door truck if the alarm is supposed to lock and unlock.
And no the alarm only has diagram for alarm wiring. It shows a 2 wire harness with lock and unlock and its labeled neg pulse unlock or lock.
Aron Migz
howie ll 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry, your fault for not mentioning an alarm in the first place, use the diagram posted by Idiot, Davep etc.
4 pages to wire a pair of relays? Blimey.
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:55 PM / IP Logged  
davep. wrote:
aronmigz wrote:
davep. wrote:
Here. This is IAAI's linked diagram.
power locks relay - Page 4 -- posted image.
Tried that one too.. No luck. I know the actuators work, i can get to both unlock and lock but never at the same time or it does it really rapidly. No where fast enough to open the door that quickly lol
Then your connections aren't correct. You've made a mistake, and are overlooking it during trouble-shooting. That's all it can be.
The above diagram is correct. It works. OEM's use it too in millions of vehicles produced all over the world.
I'm wondering if you have an understanding of how the relay numbers correlate to how a relay operates? The regulars on here know the numbers intuitively. If you don't, then it's difficult to deduce how the circuit is supposed to work.
The relay has two states: Energized, and OFF.
85 and 86 are the coil. 85 (-), 86 (+). These are the "control".
When the coil is ON, 30 is connected to 87.
When the coil is OFF, 30 is connected to 87a.
Perhaps taking the mystery out of how a relay functions will help you understand how this circuit operates. And that should help you find your mistake in the wiring.
Now I'm going invisible too.
Whaaaat?! Really?! U dont say?! Is that how a relay works?
Geez id think after wiring hids, a 4 pump hydraulic set up, shaved door handles, and trunk poppers in cars 10 years older i would know how a simple relay works. Thanks for unlocking that mystery, ill call off scooby and the gang.
Dude so be sarcastic, but a lil common sense would be if you can read a diagram. You probably understand how it works.
But thanks anyway
Aron Migz
howie ll 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM / IP Logged  
Simple, we're not being sarcastic mate, just frustrated, test all your stages, this is a half hour job from scratch or go and buy a DEI 451, 10 minutes.
Insulting us won't help, the more us pros see things like "I built a Saturn 5 and an Enterprise 1701 in my back yard" the more we see a cry for help, are you taking any advice?
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 12:58 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Sorry, your fault for not mentioning an alarm in the first place, use the diagram posted by Idiot, Davep etc.
4 pages to wire a pair of relays? Blimey.
Howie.. Read the very first post clearly. I stated that the neg input into the relay was being supplied from a alarm neg pulsed.
Not too sound like a dick to you and thanks for the input. But alot of ppl are reading and jumping to the conclusion i didnt state an alarm. I stated all facts.
Aron Migz
howie ll 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:01 PM / IP Logged  
Quite true for which I apologise but..... this relay configuration is used by the million weekly by auto makers and by the thousand weekly by people like us, AGAIN CHECK/TEST ALL YOUR STAGES.
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM / IP Logged  
To break it down. Heres how i been wiring it.
2- 5 post 30 amp relays..identical from oreillys.
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86- Fused 12v input on both relays
85- Neg pulsed input from alarm
87- fused 12v input on both relays
30- to actuators.
Annnnnnnnnd nothin...
Aron Migz
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM / IP Logged  
Only response i got from this nightmare of a problem pyrchased off ebay...
86 12v fused
85 constant ground
So that in turn would keep the coil energized or on. ALL THE TIME.
30 negative pulsed input from alarm
87 output to actuators
But the only thing that happens is i get the actuator to unlock not lock.
Aron Migz
aronmigz 
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Posted: December 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM / IP Logged  
So i then thought what if my alarm is putting out a neg pulse but my ebay actuators require a positive power source.
So i went out got another relay and wired
86 and 87 to fused 12v
85 neg pulse from alarm
30 to 86 input on relays to operate power the door locks
Aron Migz
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