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Viper 560XV w/ 555I, 2002 Civic


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nonbiri 
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Posted: December 14, 2003 at 9:39 AM / IP Logged  

I want to replace Viper 560XV's blue LED.  Where can I buy a red colored LED?  The blue one that came with Viper is too bright, I'd prefer a dimmer red version if available, and if you know how are the LEDs specified, -- ie voltage, wattage, demention, etc? 

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nonbiri

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try radio shack, if theres a Fry's (outpost.com) store in ur area, they have a complete variety of LED. but i think the blue LED is pretty koo lookin
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Okay, I'll try Radio Shack in my neighborhood.  Thanks for responding. I want red to make the car look like it has Honda's security option installed.  They use the red LED, I think. 

I just began installing my Viper 560XV yesterday, and got most of keyless portion completed.  I can open trunk with remote (thanks to AlarmTech's info, installed Accord trunk latch) on my Civic, and doors work fine.  I'll be too busy to do any install for the next week but I hope to fihish the rest, alarm & remote start, by end of the month.

Thanks for all the help everyone!

nonbiri

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hey nonbiri, what happened to your post? I got a notification about your rear defogger, and then found it in this post instead? confusing :-)
Anyway, no....I did it on an older Integra, not a Civic. I didn't use a resistor or a diode. I just used the relay to give continuity between two wires (I forget which two). So when I hit the button on the remote, it activates the relay, and activates the switch.
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profuse007, I went to Radio Shack today looking for the LED.  They had red LEDs but I didn't know which voltage version to buy.  They had 2.7V, 3V, 5V, and 12V.   Anyone know what the voltage rating is for LED on the Viper alarms?  I looked at my Viper LED but there's no data printed anywhere.

cpgoose, Looks like all my posts were consolidated in this topic.  Whoever it is, thanks.  And for the rear defogger, I'll ohm out the defogger switch contacts in the heater control assembly when I pull out panel sometime next week, during christmas vacation, and figure out whether I need to include a diode and resistor, along with a relay.  Thanks again for the information.

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I began to install my Viper 560XV (brain) a couple of weeks ago and back then I wired for the keyless entry and trunk pop and they are working fine.  Resumed my install on Christmas for the remaining features, alarm and remote start, and I'm having problems.  I wired door (- pin H1/5), trunk (- pin H1/6), hood (- pin H3/2), tach (12Vac pin H3/4), and brake (+ pin H3/3) senses and all verified and is reaching the brain.  When I trigger to test the door sense I haven't been able to stop LED from blinking by starting the ignition as stated in the install manual.  FYI, all remote start related are not yet wired.  I have two questions:

1.  How can I reset the blinking LED other than by keeping the +12V disconnected forever?  The install manual says it should quit blinking when turing on the ignition, but it aint.  Breifly disconnecting the 12V from the brain and/or disconnecting the door sense signal from the brain don't help. The only way so far has been to disconnect the 12V supply for a long time.  I noticed it wasn't blinkin when I plugged back in the 12V after about 20 minutes or so, when I returned from my coffee break. But that fix would not be practical.

2. What input on does the 560XV use to sense the ignition ON setting on a car?

3. What's the tach signal voltage range? The install manual says it should be between 1-6Vac.  I found a 12Vac signal, actually a pulsing +12V coming into pin A13 on gage assembly (2002 Honda Civic), so I picked that off for the brain (pin H3/4).  I confirmed the pulsing +12V by measuring with a diode inbetween the pin A13 and DVM.  With diode cathode towards the DVM probe and diode anode towards the pin A13 on the gage, and it measures about 12Vac. I also measured DC voltage at this point, without the diode, about 7VDC, what ever that means.  The brain has a tach threshold HI/LO jumper and it is set on HI, and I haven't touched it. I'm afraid if I try the jumper setting on LO, a 12Vac input could damage the brain. 

4.  When doing rest of the install, are there any information not on the install manual I should know about?

Again, thanks in advance guys,

nonbiri

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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 1:34 PM / IP Logged  
1. The alarm gets it's ignition pulse through the relay pack for the remote start, if this is not hooked up then it will never know if the car was turned on or not.
2. See #1
3. The tach wire should be blue, it is behind the gauges or in a connector near the battery ( I have never found the connector and I own a civic). If you can't find the tach you could set the alarm to voltage sensing for the time being to get the rest of the alarm working.
4. Do you have an immobilizer?
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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 5:55 PM / IP Logged  

1. & 2.  roger. 

3.  The wire I found behind the gauge is blue, and according to the Civic manual it is the tach signal. 

4.  Yes I have 555I.

Again, thanks for the info.  I have spent over three full days on the car on and off and my wife's all upset because our only mode of transportation's have been down for the last two days, so I had to give it up today.  Just took my car in to a professional installer.  They're charging me an arm and leg, but it's got to be done.  It suppose to be readied by end of today.  What a difference, several days by me vice several hours by the pros!   I sure have learned alot about wiring on my Civic.

Again, thanks auex, and all other experts on this board.

nonbiri

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Posted: December 27, 2003 at 7:53 PM / IP Logged  
btw...for those whom will tackle a civic any time soon, the tach wire is b/t the intake and the battery, you will see a loop from the tach connector, the connnector is taped to a split-loom wire cover.
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Posted: December 28, 2003 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged  

I wired my 2002 Civic as far as keyless features using Viper 560VX and then handed it over to a pro for security and remote wirings, and also gave them the DEI 555I I had purchased earlier. The following day, they're telling me that the 555I cannot be used on my later year 2002 Civic, and instead a 555U has to be used.  Any thruth in what I'm told?  I'm wondering if they screwed the "I" model.

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