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Pickle 
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Posted: July 27, 2002 at 3:47 PM / IP Logged  

Velocity-

Just re-read my post.  To clarify: by saying the contact immediately to the right of the relay coil, I meant the set of contacts immediately to the right of the coil in the schematic, not the very first individual contact to the right...

Also, note that it's a DPDT relay...the contacts toward the left side of the schematic are driven by the same coil as the contacts on the right side of the schematic; they're used to charge/discharge the cap, which enables the latch on / latch off of the transistor which provides the ground path for the coil...so though you'd need a DPDT relay tor this schematic, you've only got one common, one NO and one NC to work with for the rest of the circuit you're setting up, which is why I suggested two additional relays.

ShaunD912 
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Posted: July 27, 2002 at 8:47 PM / IP Logged  

Velocity,

The place I saw this relay will be closed over the weekend.  But as soon a I can I will try and find out the model # and everything for you and post it.

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Posted: July 28, 2002 at 12:31 PM / IP Logged  

Change of plans here Relay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image. The switch is now Relay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image.. The trigger doesn't work after the initial trial of the DPDT relay....... oh, well. This forces me to now be a little creative with the wiring. The mirrors still work if I attach the proper wires to them ( contant + and a ground ). Now I will use my alarm remote to operate the mirrors in place of the switch. I have 12 channels on the alarm that I have, there is no problems and I can choose between constant, pulsed or latched for each of these wires. Now the problem at hand (again) is I need a flip flop relay configuration that will allow me to send a latched signal to the two wires ( one + and the other a - ) and then switch them to reverse the motor on the mirrors to flip them open. Any suggestions ?? I know this is a little confusing but any help on this will be given back 10 fold to whoever helps with this oneRelay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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Posted: July 28, 2002 at 8:24 PM / IP Logged  

hey Pickle..

Just to let you know, the pic you attached didnt post...it points to your hard drive.. (or mine..depending on the way you look at it Relay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image.)

file:///C:/My%20Documents/Schematics/RelayToggle.gif'

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Posted: July 30, 2002 at 5:26 PM / IP Logged  

Hope this works...

click  here

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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 12:28 AM / IP Logged  

Hey ....... where did you find that ??? I was looking for those posts before in the SEARCH and it came up with nothing ?? Thanks techrat Relay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image. !! I though those posts were over a year old and that's why it didn't come up on the search results. I'll try this out and post my results when I have a chance to install the relays.

Jeff
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 12:31 AM / IP Logged  

Hey techrat ..... did 12 volt ever get a diagram to you on this configuration ?? Did it work out with the switch ??

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 6:44 PM / IP Logged  

The Customer decided to wait until next year to be competition ready.

This year we are just building and brainstorming. I haven't tried any of the suggestions that were posted. I am too stubborn...still fiddling with my instincts... I almost had it one day with two relays and two caps.. but i couldn't spend anymore time on it. MARK MY WORDS...I will get it, OH yes.. I will ! Relay problem, Brain Dead - Page 2 -- posted image.

Good Luck

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Posted: July 31, 2002 at 6:53 PM / IP Logged  
12 volt never gave a diagram
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Posted: August 01, 2002 at 12:42 AM / IP Logged  

2 relays and 2 caps ?? I thought the instructions were for 3 relays and 2 diodes ? Whatever the case I figured out the wiring diagram for this circuit and I'm trying it tomorrow or Friday and see what I end up with ( Cross my fingers )

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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