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leroy185 
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Posted: September 21, 2004 at 10:43 PM / IP Logged  
hey i was putting a a pair of 15 w3's in my car and while i was building the box they were down in my room anyway to make a short story shorter my little brother somehow dropped a screwdriver on one of em and put a nice dent in the dustcap anyone have any ideas onhow to get it out?
boxmaker85 
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Posted: September 21, 2004 at 11:22 PM / IP Logged  
uh send it back to JL and make up some freak story about how you live at sea level and put them in a sealed box.  You then took a road trip with your best friends to the mountains and were playing the subs when the stress of the sub playing combine with the lower pressure that you were in while in the mountains caused the speaker/box to try and equalize pressure.  The subs being the weakes part of the system, failed to hold rigid and colapsed under the pressure.  Throw some numbers in the story to make it even more realistic.  Other than that no.  A sub should play with a dent but might not (actually probably won't) sound right.  But yeah as long as it's only a dent. 
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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 1:10 AM / IP Logged  
ur wack boxmaker, u've been up in the thin air too long. Besides, the dust cap is vented out the rear so the pressure would equalize and ur theory holds no ground. Anyway, I'll quit throwing a wrench in ur story hehe. But yeah, it will play w/o any noticable difference. I've actually played an old sony sub w/o a dust cap at all.... it kinda fell off lol. But if u wanna pop it out and make it look normal the only way to do that is to first try pressing other areas around it to see if it will pop out, and if all else fails and ur despirate get a little pin and poke a hole in the dust cap, then use a paper clip and bend it out to where u can slip it into the whole and pull the dent out (same technique body shops use to pull out collision dents).
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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 8:19 AM / IP Logged  
Nice plan boxmaker85!
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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 10:59 AM / IP Logged  
try a piece of scotch tape and pull it outdented dustcap -- posted image.     works for me with paper and plasic caps just try and not pull the whole thing off, lol
boxmaker85 
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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 12:50 PM / IP Logged  

xtreamcc  What?  A sealed box is exactly that it's sealed yes there will be two different pressures on the box.  No matter where the vent for the sub (unless it's inverted but even then the sub can still colapse... more on that later)  as lon as the box is sealed (hince the word sealed, aka no air leeks)  there will be two differnet pressures.  Now, actually the first story I told was wrong for a regular mounted sub.  The sub should actually go out more (a baloon blown up at sea level will expand the higher in elevation you go)  and the surround will rip.  But then you can say that you have your sub mounted inverted w/ the magnet out and the story will hold correct then.  But honestly i would just stick it in the box and play it.  Nothing you can do w/out damaging the speaker any more.  i think.

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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 1:45 PM / IP Logged  
Personally if you are in the industry dude, you would not ever be working for me. You are talking about a deliberate act of fraud. Have some common sense. That said though, nice idea, it would never pan out. Take a vacuum cleaner like a shop vac or other and see if you can get it to seal to the dustcap and suck it out. By the same token if the pole piece is vented, gentle (very gentle) air pressure into the back of the pole piece should "pop" it out. Another thing to try would be to superglue a small item like a paperclip end to the sub and "pop" it out. You may have to attach a couple of paperclips to the cone. The idea with the tape is good as long as the tape does not remove the paint off of the dustcap. (some dustcaps this has happened with). After all other things are exhausted, the hole in the dustcap with the paperclip through it like a dentpuller is the next best bet or send it in for service, at your expense of course.
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foridden it's what most of us call a "joke".  I was not seriously recomending that.  If you do send it in with that story though I am under no legal obligations for the consequences.
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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:14 PM / IP Logged  

I'd recomend calling JL and explaining the problem.  I woudln't be surprised if they send you out a new dustcap.  then you just glue a new one over the old one.

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Posted: September 22, 2004 at 6:18 PM / IP Logged  

Oh sure......., now it's a joke! Sorry dude, as you are fairly new here I do not know how to take your comments as legitimate or humourus. In the future I'll read your comments a little closer and look for the punch line. That said though, even I joke around and while I may say things that are blatently obvious for all to see, it is easy for someone to take what I say seriously as well, as I did with you. No harm done though.

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