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jjclark15 
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:15 AM / IP Logged  
i meant explanation of the solution because I am not sure if he need mid bass drivers or I just need to adjust the crossovers better.
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:21 AM / IP Logged  

Alright.  Check this out:   http://www.bcae1.com/xovrslop.htm

See how the slope gets much steeper at 24db?  Your friend's system looks like the crossover point there.  Only the points don't match up - one is at 80hz and the other is at 125hz.  And his situation is even worse - because his subwoofers are probably "hot" (more efficient) relative to the midbass drivers under 200hz.

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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:22 AM / IP Logged  

Just adjust the crossover..

1)  Turn OFF the subsonic filter

2)  Turn the low pass crossover to the subwoofers HIGHER - to 100hz or so.
3)  Turn the high pass crossover to the midbass LOWER - to 100hz or so. 

The idea is to match the crossover points - like the graph in my previous post.

Let me know if that helps at all. 

And like I said - recheck your wiring.  If one subwoofer moves the wrong direction it could cause cancellation problems.

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jjclark15 
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:28 AM / IP Logged  
So I need to ajust the crossovers on both amps to meet a about 80 to 125 range. Also on the link you gave me it explained slopes breifly how can I benefit from it or lose from it dont really understand it. I probably need to read up on the basic car audio link huh?
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:33 AM / IP Logged  
I posted the same time you did sorry. to your reply ok I will adjust tomorrow and see what happens but still would appreciate a explanation of the 24db?octave adjustment But other than that thanks for all the help and I post back tomorrow
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:34 AM / IP Logged  
Move the crossover point from the subwoofer amp to 100hz.  Tell me if this helps.
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:39 AM / IP Logged  

Ok.... a crossover cuts frequencies so the speaker doesn't play them.  It just doesn't stop playing them ---- it reduces at a slope. 

1 Octave is a doubling in frequency....

20 to 40hz .... 40 to 80hz .... 80 to 160 ... etc.

A decibel is the unit used to describe SPL. 

1 db is a very small audible change. 
10db is a doubling of volume to our ears.
The crossover slope describes the decrease in SPL (db) over one octave. 

So, for 6db / octave slope the sound is 6db quieter from say 40-80hz. 

Similarly, from for a 24db slope the sound is 24 db quieter (much more than twice as quiet to our ears) over one octave say from 40-80hz or 80 to 160 hz as the case may be with your friend's setup.

Does this work for you?

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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:43 AM / IP Logged  
Perfect thanks alot that shoould help a lot when I go back to adjust.
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Posted: February 25, 2005 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  
God, I must be tierd - so many typos in my last post. 
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Posted: February 26, 2005 at 7:18 PM / IP Logged  

I agree with yall solutions but i got one thought. from my previous experiences with multi driver/single chamber boxes that are sealed is that , well its just not good,.Speakers come with a certain size enclosure needed to give the correct air pressure internally in which the speaker can compress. when you got four subs pressing against each other it causes it to not preform up to par. if you feel the box is still big though , or in the future , then try using polyfill ( like for pillows) it causes the resistance inside to increase making to act like a smaller enclosure.

If im just blowing smoke someone tell me please..

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