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Calgarysouth

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Calgarysouth

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Posted: May 05, 2005 at 8:13 AM / IP Logged

not necessarily targetting you 98gt...

but, i have doubts whether a professional installer would hook up an auto start in a standard. even if it leaves the shop not working...

and if he does, and he's doing it for a hundred bucks....is he really professional??

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Posted: May 05, 2005 at 10:57 AM / IP Logged

Hindsight is 20/20. It's a Russian roulette game with the vehicle eletrical & ignition system. Some win some loose, but it's always a learning experience. Unfortunately for us ( the professional installer's ) the people who win don't necessarily always learn anything from their installation, but the consequences that will arise from their install will haunt them one day after someone get's hurt or if they damage property because of a remote starter designed for an automatic is installed into a manual.

Jeff

Velocity Custom Home Theater

Mobile Audio/Video Specialist

Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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Calgarysouth

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Posted: May 06, 2005 at 6:01 PM / IP Logged

i agree totally......and it leaves a bitter taste in their mouth about that particular type of product. So, they are less likely to purchase one in the future. and like the old saying....bad news travels faster than good news.....so, it hurts us all

sunfire878

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Posted: June 03, 2005 at 9:18 PM / IP Logged

i am not a professional installer and i put a 791xv in my car with zero problems. oh yeah and im an electrical engineer by profession. that might have helped...installing the system was incredibly simplistic and anyone that is even just a little tech savy can handle it. rtfm is all you need to do really

cR@zY

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Posted: June 04, 2005 at 4:15 PM / IP Logged

HA H A a funny but scarry thing happened. I am in auto sales at a weekend sale and some jackass was showing a 04 350 Z to a customer and hit the remote start and CYAAAAAAAAA the car took off like a like mario andretti. Smashing into the toyota sienna in front of the Z there were no injuries.

bostra

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Posted: June 04, 2005 at 7:45 PM / IP Logged

So whats wrong with using a netrual saftey switch for a remote start ? Ive installed remote starts on my previous 5 speeds, civic and tibbie... No problems at all.

sunfire878

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Posted: June 04, 2005 at 8:23 PM / IP Logged

its ok to install if you think u can pay attention and leave it in netrual. i mean u could drive down the road and not pay attention for 5 seconds screwing with the radio and run a kid on a bike over. i have the netrual safty switch rigged to the ebrake and when anyone else uses the car for any reason, i turn the switch off and do not give the remote so it cannot ever be remote started.

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Posted: June 05, 2005 at 2:43 PM / IP Logged

Honesstlty "let the PROS do it" somehow does not work for me anymore.

Perhaps it is cause I had a reputalbe shop (back in the day) install an amp and they hooked the remote turnon to 12V constant so the next day the battery was dead.

Perhaps is cause a reputable shop channged the oil in my friends eclipse gst (and forgot to put new oil in it)...so he got a new engine.

Honestly I've installed a few alarms, actuators, amps, speakers, head units.

IF I don't know I ask. If I don't get an answer I take my multimeter (NOT A TEST LIGHT) and test.

The PROS are just people who follow proper ways to connect wires, read diagrams (even the pros need wiring shcematics right?), install bypass module (I guess if the PROs were realy that hard core they'd build their own factory bypass module). Not trying to knock the PROs but I'm not feeling the "don't attempt it leave it to the PROs" idea.

Velocity Motors

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Posted: June 06, 2005 at 8:41 AM / IP Logged

I would like to add that being employed at a shop or working somewhere other than your back yard garage doesn't constitute you as a "PRO". A professional installer not only has years of experience behind them, but also they have a conscience & they care about the customer, their vehicles & take responsibility of the installation ( even after it leaves the shop ) . I am standing up for the professional that has integrity in their work as well as respect for the customer and their property. I stand by my philosophy that honesty is the best policy and if I don't think something is safe to do, I won't do it and explain this to the customer.

This is what separates a "PRO" from an ametuer or weekend warrior. Having a peice of paper after you complete a course or working at a box store with $100,000 installation bays doesn't make the installer a " PRO" by any means.

Jeff

Velocity Custom Home Theater

Mobile Audio/Video Specialist

Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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