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eg0rka 
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Posted: September 09, 2007 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  
got an alarm "predator 4001" i installed it and it does open/close doors and trunk and starts the car but turns it off 5-10seconds later
manual says:
After remote starting your engine, the Predator system will shut off the engine immediatly if the ignition is OFF and any of the following occurs:
1. hood is opened (controled by a switch this is NOT the problem)
2. the brake pedal is pressed (didnt touch it I swear :P)
3. The Remote Control Button is pressed (not pressed guaranteed)
4. 20 or 30 minute programmable run time is expiered
factory setting by default for car to run is 20min....
it also says car wont even turn on if hood is open or break is pressed
so that rules 2 of thouse out
i set car to 30min and same issue occurs
it cant be the remotes... does it with both... lol
does anybody know about ignition?
i got 2 wires
Ignition 1 RED / Light Green (+)
Ignition 2 BLACK/ Light Green (+)
BUT alarm only is asking for one. i got it connected to RED / light green
anybody know about the ignitions and which once are/arent requiered?
should i hook them both up in parallel? but i dont understand why i would need to cuz car starts already... uhhhhhhh
HELP!
also i got "remote start armed signal" canle disconnected and I dont know what to do with it.
it talks about running continues power while autostart is running.
could it be "Alarm Input Wire: BLACK/ LIGHT BLUE (+) IN # PIN GRAY CONN BEHIND PARK BRAKE" ?
any ideas guys?
btw i got 1997 Ford Thunderbird 4.6L V8
Thanks
I know im a noob but i did a search, google and here and everywhere./ dont know what to do from here :S
init 
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You probably do need to connect both ignition wires.

Also, have you learned the tach signal properly?

init 
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oh, and don't forget you need a PATS bypass module...
catalin capota 
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The second ignition line that behicle seems to only power the heater.
As far as the 'armed signal' wire you're talking about should be connected to a PATS immobilizer by-pass module like init mentioned. It's required since your vehicle as a factory installed immobilizer.
This most likely explains why the vehicle runs for a few seconds and turn off.
eg0rka 
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catalin capota wrote:
The second ignition line that behicle seems to only power the heater.
As far as the 'armed signal' wire you're talking about should be connected to a PATS immobilizer by-pass module like init mentioned. It's required since your vehicle as a factory installed immobilizer.
This most likely explains why the vehicle runs for a few seconds and turn off.
PATS bypass module?
what does it stand for? does my car have it?
ill need to search for that because i got no clue what that is :S
thx for help guys ill google PATS for now unless you can provide me some more info :D
eg0rka 
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i just did a quick search and supposevely my 1997 ford thunderbird does not have immobilizer
starter makes car start, turn off shortly -- posted image.
init 
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Posted: September 09, 2007 at 11:48 PM / IP Logged  

Ooops!  I'm sorry, I looked up Ford Mustang!  No, I guess you don't need it, I don't see a reference to it in DEI's bypass application chart.

I'm sorry.  Although that still doesn't solve the problem totally...

If you're using voltage sense, make sure the system is programmed to do so.  If you're using TACH mode, then make sure you've learned the tach signal and that the tach wire is making a good connection.

As for that other ignition wire, the main reason why people install remote starters is to warm up the heater.  You'll probably want to connect that wire.  Don't just hook it into the other ignition wire.  I'll have to look at the install manual to see exactly what needs to be done.

eg0rka 
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thanks alot for help. ill see if i can scan install digrahm tomorrow and post it for you
i thought i had it on my comp but i dont :S
eg0rka 
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FOUND IT :D
starter makes car start, turn off shortly -- posted image.
catalin capota 
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Is there not a small light in the dash that flashes or lights up 'theft' or somethign to that effect??
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