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beech2000 
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The Good.
Found a deal on e-bay and bought it. (Clifford 330.3x alarm system).
The Bad.
1) No money to have it installed.
2) DI Electronics customer support
Solution? D.I.Y
Reference material is
http://www.alertautomotive.com/diagrams/diagrams.aspsite
Responder LC guide (see image below)
Here is where I am at.
H1/1 not connected
H1/2 Constant power to 330.3x H1/2 via the pink/black wire at ignition harness.
H1/3 RED / wht connected to red on siren
H1/4 Need Help!
H1/5 Grounded
H1/6 Need Help!
H1/7 Won't be used (Truck)
H1/8 Green Need Help!
H1/9 Blk/Wht Need Help!
H1/10Wht/Blu Need Help!
H1/11White Need Help!
H1/12Orange Need Help!
H2 Door lock harness
Somehow I have the door lock system working perfectly via the
330 and 820 ohm resistors on the WHITE/ green wire in drivers kick panel.No issues at all here. I think
H3/1 ORANGE / Blk Need Help!
H3/2 Wht/Blk Need Help!
H3/3 Violet/Blk Need Help!
H3/4 LightGrn/Black Need Help!
H3/5 Yellow Need Help!
H3/6 Brown Need Help!
H3/7 Grey Need Help!
I think I have to isolate the 4 door trigger wires via 1N4001 diodes but then what? clifford 330.3x in 03 dodge ram hemi 2500 -- posted image.
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Here is a link to Bulldog Security : http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

Look up your truck.  They list the wires and provide pictures.  Just remember to verify all the wires with a Digital Multi Meter.

Does your truck have a Black or Gray ignition key?  Gray key needs a bypass module.

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beech2000 
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kreg357 wrote:

Here is a link to Bulldog Security : http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

Look up your truck.  They list the wires and provide pictures.  Just remember to verify all the wires with a Digital Multi Meter.

Does your truck have a Black or Gray ignition key?  Gray key needs a bypass module.

Black key and no factory alarm system installed. I noticed some missing info like resisters on lock and unlock on bulldogs website.
Do I need to connect the yellow wire to ignition on H3/5? Thanks
beech2000 
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Do I connect the 4 diodes to the door trigger positive H1/6 or H1/8 negative?
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Are you sure you looked up the right vehicle?  Here is the one-wire lock info :

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp   Your Clifford
system has on-board relays, so follow the Type H diagram ( similar to Directed
451M module Type H wiring ).

Yes, the H3/5 Yellow wire would go to the  IGNITION 1  BLUE (+) 16 Gauge wire  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

For vehicle wiring, here are some sources :

Here is a link to Ready Remote :  http://www.readyremote.com/main.asp
Here is a link to AudioVox :  http://techservices.audiovox.com/AccessRequest.aspx    Sign-up & info is free.

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beech2000 
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Great links. Thanks I'll get busy tomorrow with my mess. I used to install avionics in light aircraft years ago and was no big deal. I guess its due to great tech data. This automotive thing is so different. Thanks again
beech2000 
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Me again,
I am getting flaky parking light action when grounding the VIOLET / YELLOW wire through the 320ohm resister. Before connecting it to the brain I tried manually touching it on and off to ground. Its like its on a timer or something.
I am almost tempted to run a wire to the relay under the hood and connect it to the positive output on brain. Thoughts?
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Posted: January 19, 2013 at 7:43 AM / IP Logged  

Here is some more info from Ready Remote :

Parking lights require a negative trigger thru a 330 or 1.4K ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so
MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch
.

You could try a 1.4K ohm resistor or better yet, do it with a relay and switch isolation.  Use a 30/40 amp SPDT relay.

Relay Pin 85 to chassis ground
Relay Pin 86 to Clifford H1/11 w/Clifford set to (+) Parking Light output
Relay Pin 87a to Ram Purple / YELLOW Parking Light MUX      cut wire - switch side
Relay Pin 30 to Ram Purple / YELLOW Parking Light MUX        cut wire - vehicle side
Relay pin 87 thru correct resistor ( 330 or 1.4K ohm ) to chassis ground

Almost forgot, IHOH, please add a 1N4007 diode across relay pins 85 & 86 with the band towards Pin 86.

I have had some trouble ( it was a 2006 Ram ) that didn't work well with the suggested resistor value...

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beech2000 
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kreg357 wrote:

Here is some more info from Ready Remote :

Parking lights require a negative trigger thru a 330 or 1.4K ohm resistor. There is a rest resistance on the wire, so
MUST use a relay to isolate away from the switch
.

You could try a 1.4K ohm resistor or better yet, do it with a relay and switch isolation.  Use a 30/40 amp SPDT relay.

Relay Pin 85 to chassis ground
Relay Pin 86 to Clifford H1/11 w/Clifford set to (+) Parking Light output
Relay Pin 87a to Ram Purple / YELLOW Parking Light MUX      cut wire - switch side
Relay Pin 30 to Ram Purple / YELLOW Parking Light MUX        cut wire - vehicle side
Relay pin 87 thru correct resistor ( 330 or 1.4K ohm ) to chassis ground

Almost forgot, IHOH, please add a 1N4007 diode across relay pins 85 & 86 with the band towards Pin 86.

I have had some trouble ( it was a 2006 Ram ) that didn't work well with the suggested resistor value...

Okay then, I guess I will head out again and pick up a single pole double throw relay and 1N4007 diode from radio shack. You mentioned having problems with a 2006 did you end up using a 330 or 1400 ohm resistor or something else. Thanks again Kreg
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Here is a link to a Pictorial on that 2006 Ram :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=130085&tpn=1&PN=1
The caption for the next to last picture gives the details on the Parking Light resistor.
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