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crewdog10

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Posted: January 03, 2004 at 11:22 AM / IP Logged

Hello, I have a quick question about bypassing my 2k1 civic. I'm going to use this method http://www.velocitymotorsport.com/images/install_notes/146.jpg but I'm wondering if it is ok to connect my yellow start wire to the clutch switch, because it is a 14 awg, 30amp output. Will there be a problem connecting it to the thinner wires? This is my first time putting in a remote start and I greatly appreciate the help.

JWorm

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Posted: January 03, 2004 at 5:47 PM / IP Logged

That method won't work on a Honda....Its more for GM and Chrysler vehicles. Hondas work differently. There are probably two connectors each with two wires going to the clutch. First, unplug one of the two connectors going to the clutch. Push in clutch and try to start the car with the key. If it doesn't start, you have the right switch. Once you identify the right switch, test the two wires at the switch. One will show ground all the time, the other will show ground only when the clutch is pushed in about 95% or more (switch must be plugged in at this point). You need to supply ground to the wire that shows ground only when pushed all the way in. Can be accomplished with a relay....I use the following method. There are other ways to do it.

86 - starter wire

85 - ground when running

87 - wire at clutch switch

30 - other wire at clutch switch

When the remote start goes to crank, 30 and 87 get connected together allowing the starter to crank. This way the clutch switch works the same way as if someone was stepping on it.

What are you using for a remote starter? I hope its designed for standards.

crewdog10

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Posted: January 03, 2004 at 6:23 PM / IP Logged

I'm installing a Ultrastart 4500 designed for manuals. Luckily I have a spare relay. I'll give it a try and let you know how it works out, thanks alot!

crewdog10

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Posted: January 04, 2004 at 12:17 PM / IP Logged

Today I was putting the remote starter/ alarm on my 2k1 civic. When I tapped into the RED / black wire (parking lights) behind the fuse box I heard a noise. I figured that I screwed something up, so I checked the lights, and the front headlights/parkinglights are dead. I checked the fuses and they all appeared to be good. What do you guys think I did?

Scott35

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Posted: January 04, 2004 at 12:21 PM / IP Logged

Did you check the fuses under the hood?

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crewdog10

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Posted: January 04, 2004 at 1:31 PM / IP Logged

Yes, I checked all of the fuses. I wonder if I accidentally grounded out the wire. If so, what would that do? I thought the fuses would protect it. I'm guessing now that it is either the relay or the switch, but I don't know how to check it. If the lights do not work in any switch position, Is there a master fuse for all front lighting? I'm stuck, thanks again for any help.

crewdog10

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Posted: January 05, 2004 at 5:32 AM / IP Logged

Well, I finally got everything working again. It seems that I damaged the wire. It was on back of the fuse box and was a real Bia*&@ to fix properly. Luckily now my lights are working again. All of the wires are run to the brain and the alarm is working properly.

My remote start is giving me trouble though. When I press button 3, my car gives me a diagnostic code that the car has not been set into reservation mode. To put my car into reservation, I have to:

-set the parking brake, and press the brake pedal twice.

-my car flashes twice to let me know that it is working

-when I take the key out of the ignition, my car should keep running(it turns off)

-then close the doors, and my car should be set.

I guess the first problem is to check the transponder operation. I'm a little unsure exactly where the lasso should go.

Next, I'm going to shoot the wires from the harness that are coming off of the ignition.

Has anyone ever had a similar situation?

crewdog10

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Posted: January 08, 2004 at 1:51 PM / IP Logged

OK, I'm truely stumped here and asking the pro's for some help. I put a remote start/alarm on a 2001 civic. The alarm portion works flawlessly. On the remote start, the car will stay running after I put it in reserve mode, and then shuts down after I close the door. When I press the start button, the lights turn on in the cluster as if it is about to start. Then they shut down and nothing happens. I tried it with the clutch depressed to check the bypass. I checked it with the key in the ignition to check the transponder bypass (which I assume the vehicle would still crank if it were the transponder). I checked the starter relay in 3 different configurations, I'm using the normally closed configuration. The diagnostics code gives me 7 quick flashes, meaning "tach lock," but I know the tach signal is good because the car will tach learn when I start it after a reset. What's next, to troubleshoot?

mikeshonda750

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Posted: January 08, 2004 at 2:48 PM / IP Logged

I work with the ultrastarts every day... you have your door trigger wired backwards.... you probably used a + trigger wire and its a - trigger. The manual versions were designed to shut off when the door is opened to prevent someone from knocking it into gear. So.... instead of using the + use the -.. or viceversa.... it may also require the use of a relay. So... lemme ask.... which wire did you use for your alarm domelight supervision?

mikeshonda750

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Posted: January 08, 2004 at 2:52 PM / IP Logged

Sorry.. just re-read your post... Tach lockout means your transponder bypass unit is not working properly. Move the wires around the ignition cylinder... move the key around inside the bypass box.... what bypass are you using again? you want this bypass to only be active when the R/S is on... so dont use your BLUE or WHITE ignition wires... you will have to wire up a relay to use the "Ground when armed/running" wire to trigger the relay, turning the bypass on, making it only work when the RS is activated.

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