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yearmax713

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Posted: November 13, 2003 at 7:16 AM / IP Logged

I have a 96' nissan pathfinder with a kenwood head unit .I want to setup my starter kill as a passive with remote turn on lead but also want it to work with my starter kill wire on my r\s unit . My question is ...... Is it possible and if so how do i wire the relays to do so ?

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Posted: November 13, 2003 at 10:41 PM / IP Logged

do you mean like this

Relay 1

87A

Relay 2

87A

Diode

Relay 1

86Ground

30 motor side of starter

87A not used

87 key side of starter

85 Used with relay #2

Relay 2

85 from relay 1, join to 87 and 85 of relay2

86 ground

87a not used

30 ignition 12V(+)

Use 87( relay 1) 87 and 85(relay #2) connect that to you amp or power antenna turn on lead .

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whiteshack

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Posted: November 14, 2003 at 1:41 PM / IP Logged

you will need two relays and three diode to make a latching relay

relay 1

86 87a 85

relay 2

86 87a 85

relay 1

connect 86 and 87a to ground. connect 30 to 85with a diode with the band facing 85 also connect your remote wire from radio with a diode band facing the relay to 85 at the relay after the first diode.connect 87 to true ign.

relay 2

connect 86 to 30 from relay 1

87a to motor side of starter wire

30 to keyside of starter wire

30 to 85 with the last diode with the band facing 85

TO START CAR TURN RADIO ON

PS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE REMOTE START STARTER OUTPUT CONNECT ON 87A OF RELAY #2 GOOD LUCK ---WHITESHACK ELETRONICS

mecp certified installer

auex

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Posted: November 14, 2003 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged

How about this. The thief uses a screwdriver to pop the ignition, the radio turns on and the truck starts right up. The thief hot wires the car, the radio turns on and the truck starts up. Also what are you gonna do when the acc shuts off turning the deck off when the key is in the start position?

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Posted: November 14, 2003 at 5:53 PM / IP Logged

It isn't a good idea to have a starter kill that will disengage when the ign/acc is turned on. In my opinion it is absolutely pointless. It is like putting a pressure switch underneath the fabric of your seat and hooking it to a starter kill relay. Aslo as if you have a remote start on the vehicle then it is pretty useless to have a starter kill in the first place. Think about it the entire ignition system is wired, all a thief would have to do is find the starter wire off of the remote start and it would bypass any starter kill that you have, because it has to or the R/S would not work.

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Always check info with a digital multimeter.

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yearmax713

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Posted: November 14, 2003 at 7:30 PM / IP Logged

Thanks ,

You all have been a great help .. auex you have a point unless i plan i taking the face off my radio every time i get out what is the use . You all have given great ideas and good points of view ..

yearmax713

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Posted: November 14, 2003 at 7:45 PM / IP Logged

auex,

I am working on a 98 dodge caravan/w single wire lock setup and have run in to a problem with the locks . I am using a dti 24737 model alram/remote start system .. iI know i have to use resistors and got them set up .I 665ohm for unlock and 250ohm for lock. I have also found a set up to use just the releays on the vehicle itself but nothing is working .. what am i doing wrong ?

Here is what i have been using for reference :

http://www.designtech-intl.com/Content/techsupport/wirecolors/VehicleDetail?modelID=355

http://www.designtech-intl.com/Content/techsupport/documents/section04/fod_04_155_01.pdf

Am i doing something wrong ?

Here is the manual for the system

http://www.designtech-intl.com/Content/techsupport/documents/section05/fod_05_116_14.pdf

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