Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring

freqsounds wrote: It shrunk the image, so you'll probably have to see it in the installation manual. All the black solid lines need to be connected in D2D mode. W2W requires all the lines to be connected -- black and blue dashed.

freqsounds, i'm going to get my xkloader2 to flash my dball2 sometime this week. here is remote starter from dball and viper 5706 viper 5706 10pin heavy gauge connector I'm not sure which pin from viper to my wire chart. hope you can help and correct as i go: ign1 of dball remoter start as viper #10 pink(+)ign1 input/output ign2 " ....." viper #4 pink/white (+)ign2/flex relay output? start1 "...." ?? start2 "..."? +12v is on viper the 6pin connector is #1 red (+)12vdc constant input Thanks

I just got my xkloader2 and flash my dball2 to my camry 2011 successfully. And now, I need help on viper5706 which wire going to wire reference chart. From viper 5706 to wire reference chart below Please feel free to make correction. Here is what I come up with and i'm not sure the rest of it: ign1 10 pink to pin 6 yellow ign2 4 pink/white to pin 1 pink starter1 6 green to pin 7 blue starter2 7 violet to pin 3 gray

You need your accessory wire too. This will be the white wire at the ignition cylinder connected by Viper's orange wire. Keep in mind, there are 2 ignition wires, so you will need to use the Ignition2 wire. There are also two starter wires. For this, you will need a relay. You have two starter wires on the alarm. The green one is input only. Don't need it. The violet one IS needed. Connect your relay as: Pin 85 - Ground Pin 86 - Violet starter wire from Viper Pin 87 - +12V Constant Pin 30 - Starter 2 on the car You can also use the Starter (-) on the 24 pin harness if you want. That would be wired as: Pin 85 - Violet starter wire from viper (SMALL (-) output) Pin 86 - +12V Constant Pin 87 - +12V Constant Pin 30 - Starter 2 on the car Either method would work. Make sure you run a diode (1N4004) across pins 85 and 86 (stripe toward 86) for surge suppression. No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)

I have a question. Did not harry said that doing this way below will cause issues with the starter issues? Even after using the Diode across 86 and 85 in this configuration? Pin 85 - Ground Pin 86 - Violet starter wire from Viper Pin 87 - +12V Constant Pin 30 - Starter 2 on the car

harryharris wrote: Do try to read and understand what I've already posted here: - "Except that will cause feedback across the two starters causing problems and fault codes to appear which belies the last comment on the freqsounds post. Wire it thus:- H2 violet yellow (-) to 85 Fused 30 amps to 86 and 87 2nd starter from 30. And yes the good old 1N4004 across 85 and 86, band to 86."

Harryharris, care to elaborate on the science behind this one? I've never had an issue with this before, curious if I'm missing something!No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)

Yeah, because you do not say to use the diode except the 2nd way

Thank you, freqsounds. It took me awhile to read and read. From Viper to vehicle ignition 8 Acc orange to white wire at ignition 10 pink to pin 6 yellow ign1 4 pink/white to pin 1 pink ign2 6 green ..Donot use 7 violet w/relay&diode as describe above to starter 2 Is there anthing else from Viper need to connect to vehicle ignition? whats about at starter1 at the ignition? And please check the above connection that I re-wrote... thanks again

Sorry I'm going to contradict myself with this one. After speaking with harryharris, I understood his logic in this. It is best practice to use the (-) starter wire to power the relay for Starter2. So this wire diagram would be the best one to use: 85 - violet / YELLOW starter (-) output (from 24 pin Viper harness) 86 - +12V constant (fused) 30 - starter2 on the vehicle 87 - +12V constant (fused) Connect diode (1N4004) from pin 85 to 86, white stripe toward 86. Your Violet wire from the heavy gauge harness will go to Starter1. All your other connections look good, but please test your wires with a DMM before connecting them just to be sure. No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)

Questions? where to do you get a relay and a diode? does autostore have it? and when you said connect to +12v constant(fuse), you meant at the ign that measure +12v and add a fuse to it? Thanks, vin123

You can get relays and diodes from radio Shack. The +12V constant means anywhere in the car where there's 12V anytime. For this setup, you can use the +12V at the ignition. The fused part means install a fuse between that pin on the relay and the +12V source. You can get fuse holders from an auto parts store.No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)