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amp for four 12 alpine type r 4 ohm dvc?


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akickz 
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i was looking at that amp as well but i want to run my alpines all on one amp. the kicker kx2500.1 will push 625 watts to each type-r, and that's most likely at 14.4V, which my car doesnt run at. i've heard the alpine type-r can take a little extra juice, up to 750W rms. if you figure, half of the max watts is 750W, max is 1500W, so it makes sense.
kylecm85 
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yeh the 2500.1 is a great amp and if u want to do one amp is prob the way to go u can find them at decent prices if u do some searching i have had great luck with both mtx and kicker.
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If you get a 2500.1 you WILL NEED a new alternator AND 0 gauge wiring all around.
akickz 
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yah my friend works at circuit city he told me $250 for the kx2500.1 . and is 0 guage wiring a MUST? because i run 4 guage with the two 2200W amps i currently have, i also have a yellow top altima and a 3.0 farad cap. i was thinking about running 0 or 1 guage from the battery up front to my rear battery, and from there all 4 guage to the amps, etc.
akickz 
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im sorry, yellow top OPTIMA not altima.
kylecm85 
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you are deff going to want to change it to 0 awg just for the fact that is a lot of current draw i would try to do 0 awg even from your second battery into the amp. Just think of it as breathing through a straw the smaller the straw the harder to breath the bigger the straw the easier to breath now apply that to your power wire.
crewwzin 
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If you're having all kinds of electrical problems from your current amps, sure its the amps fault, but its also the cars fault for not being able to keep up with the added load. As posted before, you NEED to get a higher output alternator. The one that came on the car maybe an HO unit, but its there for a reason and you said it yourself...everything in the car is electrical. Now you're trying to add in another 200A worth of current draw and its obviously taking its toll.

Bottom line...

1) Get rid of the capacitor, 4AWG wiring, stock alternator

2) Replace with new HO alt, AT LEAST 0AWG, and possibly even another battery.

p.s. make sure you address the Big 3 as well as all the grounds for your amps.

I'd rather be in the boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with a boat on the rocks!
akickz 
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A HO alt isnt available for my car, i've looked everywhere. but I will run 0AWG wire from the battery to the trunk, and buy a brand new alternator. and my pos/neg wires for my battery are already pretty thick. i think they are 4awg or 2awg. but i have a question, why get rid of the capacitor?
crewwzin 
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A capacitor only adds to your failing alternator problem. As has been said time and time again on this forum, the alternator is the absolute root of all electrical in a car. It supplies the power, a battery and a cap only store it. Caps are basically band-aids for a cut on a major artery. As far as the new HO alternator, since they dont make one for your car, you might have to fabricate a bracket to make one that is close to the same size fit. With enough time and ingenuity, anything can be done.  

Also, your ground wire NEEDS to be the same size as your main power cable. Not a lot of people realize that (correct me if I'm wrong DYohn) the same amount of current runs through the ground as does the positive cable. That is most likely one of the reasons for your problem.

I'd rather be in the boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with a boat on the rocks!
akickz 
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I do know of a local altenator shop I will go and see wut they can do. but i really use the cap to to see how many volts is running through my system in the back. do you suggest i take it out and get a digital voltage reader? the way i have my system hooked up is, 4awg wire running from my main battery to a 250A fuse then to my yellow top in the back. from there i run a wire to my cap and from my cap I run my wires to my amps. all my wires are 4awg as well as my ground wires and are all grounded properly. i was thinking do i need a larger fuse? I was told i needed a 300A.
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