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roadworks 
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I installed a remote start in my friend truck about 2 years ago.. no problem.. At the beginning of this winter he told me that after he remote started when he put the key in and turn to the run posistion, the stater engages as he turns the key.. I know that this happens on the Toyota Echo.. but has anyone else had this problem... At first he thought there was aproblem with the remote starter itself but after I replaced it.. I told him that it is the ignition switch in his truck..  Can I put a relay in line with the starter wire?
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You need to isolate the starter wire. Use a relay cut the strter wire. 87a gets the car side, and 30 gets the key side. 86 12volts, and 85, ground while running.

Your remote start output starter wire needs to go in front or before this relay.

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Thanks.. That's what I wanted to to.. but I just thought I'd ask if anyone has had this problem..

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Haven't seem it on a Frontier but have on an old Pathfinder. You could disconnect the unit for a few days to see if it is RS related tho it probably is....
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the problem only exists when the remote start is on..

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I just did a start in an Xterra the other day and had the same issue. You need to isolate the Accessory wire with a relay to fix the issue...

30- BCM side of Accy. wire

87a- Keyside of Accy wire

87- Accy. output from Rem. start unit (High current + 12V will also work)

85- Neg. accy output from Rem. Start

86- +12V

Install it like everyone will see EVERY part of it.
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How does isolating the accs. wire keep the starter wire from kickin?
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I have seen this problem on nissans, if you put your meter on the "starter wire" while the car is running(from the remote starter) it should not get any voltage when you put your key to the either accessory or ign position, putting a relay on the starter wire and using the gwr neg output is the fix.
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yea i dont see how isolating the ignition would do much. starter wire should be isolated.

85 - constnat 12v

86 - GWR
87a - Start wire keyside
87 - start wire motor side

i have only seen this issue on toyota cars (specifically camry, echo and corolla)

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It was the Altima you had to relay-isolate the accessory wire. I never heard about that on other Nissans.
I think on this Frontier, it's going to be the starter wires.
How to check:
Remote start car, leave running.
Being careful not to bump into the brake and kill the remote starter, untape and separate the car's two starter wires.
Insert key and slowly turn it to Run.
If it doesn't grind, that was the problem. Go ahead and reconfigure the two starter wires so that they're separate.
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