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clutch bypass for 2007 hyundai accent gs


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KarTuneMan 
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chadwa2003 wrote:
You can use the gwr wire that will be okay. But if you have a neg start pulse that would be better but both will work fine

You cannot use GWR. It must act just like the (POS)+ start output, only negative! GWR will fire the starter, and hold it engaged for the entire runntime (ground out while running) think about it.

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chadwa2003 wrote:
White wire from prostart to BLACK/ orange at clutch switch and purple from prostart to white wire in the ignition harness

This will work provided the white is a negative start output, and the purple is the pos. start output. and NONE are ground while running.

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KarTuneMan,
First, let me say I appreciate your help sssooo much!
From what your saying though - it sounds like you want me
to bypass my clutch only while the starter's cranking???
I need it to stay bypassed while the car's in idle too.
Am I missing something here???
The start wire from the RS is firing up the start wire to
my ignition harness... I just need it to think my clutch
is depressed. Why does something so simple seem so
complicated?
I did this to my 5spd 1989 Celica. - GWR to one wire on
the clutch switch and was good to go! I just wanted to be
sure my 2007 Accent had the same type clutch system.
I'm confused!?!?
Thanks again.
Mike
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Mike_89gts wrote:
KarTuneMan,
First, let me say I appreciate your help sssooo much!
From what your saying though - it sounds like you want me
to bypass my clutch only while the starter's cranking???
I need it to stay bypassed while the car's in idle too.
Am I missing something here???
The start wire from the RS is firing up the start wire to
my ignition harness... I just need it to think my clutch
is depressed. Why does something so simple seem so
complicated?
I did this to my 5spd 1989 Celica. - GWR to one wire on
the clutch switch and was good to go! I just wanted to be
sure my 2007 Accent had the same type clutch system.
I'm confused!?!?
Thanks again.
Mike
Ooops - I just realized that the car's in neutral so
the clutch doesn't need to seem depressed the entire
time the car's running under RS - duh me!
Still confused though! LOL
Mike
KarTuneMan 
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Just work slow and pay attention. The info given is spot on. It will work

Do you see and understand how a GWR won't work?

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KarTuneMan wrote:

chadwa2003 wrote:
You can use the gwr wire that will be okay. But if you have a neg start pulse that would be better but both will work fine

You cannot use GWR. It must act just like the (POS)+ start output, only negative! GWR will fire the starter, and hold it engaged for the entire runntime (ground out while running) think about it.

The ground out when running will work fine all the gwr is doing is triggering the start relay which will allow the pos start wire at the ign switch to crank the starter. It will not constantly crank the starter just hold the start relay active and it will only crank the starter when 12 volts is applied to the start wire. All you are doing is temporarily bypass the clutch during run time. What you are saying kartuneman is that if you start the car with the car and hold the clutch in then the car will continue to crank. That is not the case. The best way to test is to temporarily connect the BLACK/ orange wire at the clutch switch to ground, make sure it is not in gear and start the car with the key. You will then see whether or not you will be able to use the gwr wire.
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What you are saying kartuneman is that if you start the car with the car and hold the clutch in then the car will continue to crank.

That is not what I am saying. If you trigger a relay wioth ground while running......it will be a latched trigger.

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Either way it will not affect the car. Yes the most correct method is to use a relay and trigger it with gwr and a start signal but it is not neccessary
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I just don't see why you are making so difficult for this guy
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