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brent88 
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i have been installing remote starts for about 4 months now. i know a decent amount for the amount of time that i have been doing it. well i just started working at a new shop, and they had an 04 jeep liberty in there for the past week. well everything was hooked up except for the FADS, parking lights, and door locks. well i hooked them all up using relays and the proper resistors, and then sent the customer happily on their way. well today they called and said that the "ignition is clicking" and that their hi-beams no longer work. or, they only work if you hold the turn signal lever towards you, but they wouldnt stay on. i am just wondering if anyone has any ideas about what could be wrong. thanks a million in advance.
brent88 
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bumpety. also another question, on a negative parking light that takes a resistor, why do i need a relay? why cant i just put a resistor in the parking light output from the remote start unit?
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brent88 wrote:
bumpety. also another question, on a negative parking light that takes a resistor, why do i need a relay? why cant i just put a resistor in the parking light output from the remote start unit?
YOu can. Same with the door locks if the output of the RS door lock is more than 250 mA.
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I had a weird headlight issue with a Liberty awile back. Turned out that it was the bypass module that I was using. What module are you using? I used a Xk531 worked perfect. Have done 4 since
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the person that was working on it before put a 556U in it but the key was black. so i might take it out and see what happens.
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as far as using the resistance straight out of the alarm for parking lights it might work  depending on what kind of alarm your using but some alarms the lock and unlock outputs already have resistance in them from the alarm.  If that is the case its still possible to use those outputs but you'll be adding that resistance in series to whatever resistors your adding so keep that in mind.  sometimes its easier to just build relays and start off at 0 .
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i have never seen an alarm or rs have resistance built into their outputs. they only offer negative 250mA outputs to trigger factory lock relays or to energize relays for rev or pos polarity.

the reason you cant just take an ouput from the unit and connect it to your parking lights is because of current. postive headlight outputs allow up to 10 amps draw which is sufficiant, but when using a negative (depending on unit) the unit might only allow up to 500mA MAX. if you connected this straight to the parking light wire, most likely you would fry the output is the lights draw 1 amp. so its always best to paly it safe and use a relay.

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Ted, the DEI product with 2 wire lock output is only about 120mA, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED 2004 liberty, remote start, issues - Last Post -- posted image.  Play safe use relays!! PS It's nice to be back, if only for 5 mins at a time. What a great surprise that after telling our ISP that the fault was at the exchange since 1st. DECEMBER, we've been vindicated. H.
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lol woops 2004 liberty, remote start, issues - Last Post -- posted image. i guess i should have stated 250mA or less and some units allow up to 500mA. well howie thanks for cathing my mistake ahah cheers bud !

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