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midwayelec 
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OK, I just finished a remote start install with door locks on a 1998 Plymouth Voyager. To make a long story short, I used the resistors with relays for the door locks, used a relay for 2nd ignition. Finished the install, tested it like a dozen times, everything worked fine. Closed everything up, remoted locked, remote unlocked, remote started, got in, turned key on, drove out of shop and into parking lot. Shut it off went inside, gave customer keys. He went outside, and nothing I installed worked..... Anybody have any ideas on why this would happen? The customer is coming back tomorrow morning to let me look at it. Any suggestions would be wonderful. Thanks.
Sean Cawby
Midway Electronics
Rensselaer, IN
219-866-3716
midwayelec 
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I'm begging for some help here.... by the way... all connections were soldered and taped. Anything else you'd like to know, let me know.... Oh, one more thing... parking lights weren't even flashing when it wasn't working, but they were flashing when it WAS working.
Sean Cawby
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bdl666 
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What brand remote starter?
Model?
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I've had one do a similar thing to a car I did. A relay in the brain was bad and melted part of the circuit board. It worked great for 4 days then quit. It was a remote start, no alarm.
I would start with the fuses. Then unplug the brain, open it up and look for damage.
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Definitely check the fuses or the ground. Another thing to check for is that the antenna is properly attached to the CPU.
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midwayelec 
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It's an Ultra Start.... Canadian company.... when I get to work tomorrow I'll check the fuses obviously. It seems like a power issue definitely because not even the led on the antenna lights up at all....
Sean Cawby
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midwayelec 
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Do i need to diode isolate the resistors in this setup? Actually do I need to diode isolate anything?
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Being that it all worked when it left your shop and the only thing you have to go on is from the customer, there's still a chance that the problem is between the steering wheel and the head rest. 1998 Plymouth Voyager Remote Start -- posted image. 

However, if this is not the case, check the obvious and let us know what you find when you get the vehicle.

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midwayelec 
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Found the problem... there was an electrical problem in the vehicle. The parking lights were only showing 8 volts instead of the 12 that it needed, therefore blowing the fuse when the parking lights came on. Took awhile to figure it out, but I did. After a little research I realized that the 99 and up Voyagers are made like this, therefore needing a resistor on the relay (to inverse polarity) in order to compensate the loss of voltage.
Sean Cawby
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In the future, you can catch the (-) parking light lead in the harness coming from the switch behind the driver's side dash just above the brake release. If I remember correctly, it's an 18 to 20 gauge Light GREEN / WHITE wire taped up with about 5 or six other small leads from the switch.
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