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2001 Toyota Sienna Alarm/Remote Start, Stereo Wiring


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dexinefx 
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hi, i'm new to the scene and am going to try to install an alarm on my wife's toyota sienna but i don't have a wiring diagram...can anyone out there help me out....also just wondering what the better alarm is between the clifford cyber 2 G4 or the Avital Phoenix 2...any comments would help and be appreciated..thanks.
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Toyota

Sienna

1998-2002

Remote Starter  Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Start:

 

RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  #1:

 

BLACK/ RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition #2:

 

BLACK / YELLOW

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  #3:

 

N/A

Accessory:

 

BLUE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Brake  Light:

 

GREEN / WHITE

AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL

Tach  Signal:

 

ORANGE

AT ECM *

Parking Lights:

 

GREEN

BLACK 6 PIN CONN. AT FUSE BLOCK

Headlights:

 

RED / GREEN (-)

AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH

OEM Alarm  Disarm:

 

BLUE (-)

12 PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL

OEM Alarm  Arm:

 

BLUE/WHITE (-)

7 PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL

Diesel  Glow Plug:

 

Clutch  Bypass Wire:

 

Notes:

 * ECM Is Located In Passenger Kick Panel.

Toyota

Sienna

1998-2002

Alarm and Keyless  Entry Wiring Colors and Notes

Function

 

Vehicle  Color

Location

Constant  +12 Volts:

 

WHITE/ RED & WHITE/ BLUE

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Starter  Kill:

 

RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Ignition  +12 Volts:

 

BLACK/ RED

IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

Dome  Lights/Superv:

 

RED / WHITE (-)

7 PIN CONN. AT FUSE BLOCK

OEM Horn:

 

GREEN/ BLACK (-)

IN STEERING COLUMN HARNESS

Power  Lock:

 

LT. GREEN (-)

7 PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL **

Power  Unlock:

 

BLUE/RED (-)

7 PIN CONN. IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL **

Trunk  Release:

 

N/A

Alarm  Input Wire:

 

RED / WHITE (-)

7 PIN CONN. AT FUSE BLOCK

Notes:

** Child Safety Locks: BROWN / RED (-) In 12 Pin Connector In Driver's Kick Panel.

Go to this link for the diagram for the Toyota child safety lock relay: https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page4.asp#tc & I'm not familiar with either brand of the alarms that you have above so I can't help you with an additional information.

Jeff
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dexinefx 
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jeff....thanks so much for the information....its really appreciated...just wondering, can i use the lock/unlock switch at the passenger's door so i don't have to worry about hooking up the toyota child safety lock relay?....thanks.
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one more question...just wondering the sienna already has a keyless entry system....when i take the car apart will it have a control module somewhere there?  if so can i just use the wires in there or do i have to take the whole module out and start from scratch...thanks.

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You will still have to bypass the child safety lock system if you want the door locks to operate properly  via keyless entry from the alarm . All you will need to do is to tap into the factory keyless entry module , you will not need to remove any modules to do this.
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  • Dexinefx you can avoid the override the child safety by tapping the key wires
  • 18ga. Blue/White (-) at same (also locks doors and engages switch lockout)

    18ga. Blue / YELLOW (-) at same (also unlocks doors and overrides switch lockout)

  • You find these wires at the base of fuse box it a brown plug facing down

Year(s): 98-02

Make(s): Toyota

Model(s): Sienna

As Of: 01/24/02

12 Volt (+)

12ga. WHITE/ Red at ignition harness

Ignition 1

12ga. BLACK / YELLOW at same

Ignition 2

Ignition 3

Accessory 1

Accessory 2

Starter

14ga. Red at same

Horn

18ga. GREEN/ Black (-) at harness exiting immediately left out of the steering column or back of fuse box behind lock wires for keyless entry model

Tachometer

Lights (+)

18ga. Green at front of fuse box

Lights (-)

Brake Lights

Door 1

18ga. RED / White (-) at base of fuse box (connector faces down)

Door 2

Door 3

Door 4

Interior Lights

18ga. RED / White (-) at front of fuse box (delayed)

Trunk/Hatch

Covered by door trigger

Hood Pin

Trunk Release

Lock (switch)

18ga. Lt. Green (-) at base of fuse box connector faces down)

Unlock (switch)

18ga. Green (-) at same (may be connected with 18ga. BROWN / Red (-) lever wire to override switch lockout)

Driver Unlock

Arm (key)

18ga. Blue/White (-) at same (also locks doors and engages switch lockout)

Disarm (key)

18ga. Blue / YELLOW (-) at same (also unlocks doors and overrides switch lockout)

Arm Input

14ga. Blue/Red (motor) at same

Disarm Input 1

14ga. Yellow/Black (motor) at same

Disarm Input 2

14ga. Blue/Black (motor) at same

LF Window Up

LR Window Up:

LF Window Dn

LR Window Dn:

RF Window Up

RR Window Up:

RF Window Dn

RR Window Dn:

Additional Info

Door lever wire can be used to trigger factory alarm

Jando
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I do alarm installs for dealers, and the local Toyota dealer is one of my biggest accounts.  I've been doing a lot of extensive research on these cars when I have the time.  I've only done about three Siennas, but I do believe I have a handle on this whole "child safety" issue, which I believe to be an incorrect term.

Here's how ALL modern Toyota power door locks work.  And you can even walk out to your van and test this for yourself.  (Open a window to make the test easier.)  If you press the power Lock button on the door, and then close it, the Unlock button becomes disabled.  (Presumably, this is so a thief can't just poke a stick into the car and push the Unlock button.)

However, if you close the door first, and then reach in the window and press Lock, you'll discover that the Unlock button will still work normally.

Now, suppose you install an alarm or keyless entry unit, and you tie the alarm's lock/unlock outputs into the wires coming off the switch on the door.  If you close the door first, and then lock it with your remote, you're never going to have a problem.  But one day, you'll press Lock on the door just for the hell of it, or you'll press Arm on your remote before you've closed the door.........and then you'll find that your remote will no longer unlock the doors.

There are ways to trick the system into working.  There is a "door lock detection" wire, commonly called a "child safety" wire.  It will show negative whenever the door is physically unlocked.  If you use your alarm's output to energize the switch-Unlock wire, and the detection wire, at the same time--the car will unlock reliably.  However, there is no need whatever to do this.

What you're looking for, is another pair of wires, that you test by operating the key in the door.  Yes, they'll test by turning the key, but not by pressing the Lock/Unlock button on the door panel.  If you use the key-cylinder wires, the doors will reliably unlock 100% of the time, no matter what the car owner does.

I forget the colors offhand, but you can find the correct Lock and Unlock wires in either kick panel.  The passenger kick panel's Unlock wire will open all doors, with a single negative pulse.  The driver kick panel Unlock wire will open only the driver's door on the first pulse, and the second pulse will unlock all doors.  Use whichever one you prefer.  (Not all alarms offer two-stage unlocking either.)  The wires in the passenger kick are blue/white and blue / YELLOW; I forget what the driver's side ones are.

The RED / white door trigger at the fuse box IS affected by the car's dome light delay, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't catch the rear hatch either.  Many alarms will emit a multitude of ghastly chirps when they detect that the delayed domelight has stayed on.  (Some models have a programming option to delete the chirps, some don't.)  Also, if you're setting the system for passive arming (which you shouldn't do anyway), the system won't beging to arm until after the domelight has gone out.   have a better solution.

Get on your back with a good light in hand.  High up behind the dash, on the driver's side, you'll see a bundle of wires, about 1 1/2" thick, running out to under the hood.  You'll see another bundle, about 1/2" thick, branching off and running upward.  These are the wires that go up to the instrument cluster.  If you gently pull, a good amount of slack will come down; use a razor knife to open up the harness.

In that harness, there's a RED / white door trigger wire, that is unaffected by the domelight delay.  It also catches the rear hatch.  (There's also a WHITE/ red in that harness, so don't get confused.)  Also, if you're doing remote start, light GREEN/ black is tachometer.  If you have trouble getting enough slack in the wires under the dash, you could always just remove the instrument cluster; it's only like six screws.

I have some more notes on this van, but not with me right now.  Let me know if you have more questions.

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Also, here's the tech sheet given out by DEI, makers of Viper/Python/Sidewinder/Clifford/Avital:

|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |

|              12V|wht/red & wht/blue  |+  |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|red                 |+  |ignition harness            |
|         IGNITION|BLACK / YELLOW        |+  |ignition harness            |
|  SECOND IGNITION|BLACK/ red           |+  |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|blue                |+  |not required for r-start    |
|       POWER LOCK|blue/white          |-  |passenger kick panel  *1    |
|     POWER UNLOCK|blue / YELLOW         |-  |passenger kick panel  *1    |
|       LOCK MOTOR|blue/red            |   |integration relay *8        |
|     UNLOCK MOTOR|blue/black          |   |integration relay *8        |
|    DISARM DEFEAT|blue/red            |   |integration relay *8        |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|green               |   |bottom of fuse box          |
| PARKING LIGHTS -|GREEN/ orange        |   |combination switch harness  |
|       HEADLIGHTS|RED / green           |-  |combination switch harness  |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|RED / white           |-  |top right side of fuse box  |
| DOME SUPERVISION|RED / black           |-  |right side of fuse box      |
|  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|GREEN/ black         |-  |top right side of fuse box  |
|         HOOD PIN|black               |-  |at light or theft ECU *2    |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|GREEN/ YELLOW *9     |-  |switch on dash below radio  |
|  FCTRY ALARM ARM|arms with lock      |   |*1                          |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|disarms with unlock |   |*1                          |
|       TACHOMETER|*3                  |   |*3                          |
|      SPEED SENSE|violet / YELLOW       |   |at ECM below glove box      |
|       BRAKE WIRE|GREEN / WHITE         |+  |brake switch or fuse box    |
|     HORN TRIGGER|GREEN/ black         |-  |steering column             |
|           WIPERS|blue/blk, blue/org  |+  |wiper switch *4             |
|  LF WINDOW UP/DN|green   -    red    |A  |in drivers door at switch   |
|  RF WINDOW UP/DN|grn/wht  -  RED / blue|A  |in drivers door at switch   |
|  LR WINDOW UP/DN|red   -   yellow  *5|A  |must go to motor (rear vent)|
|  RR WINDOW UP/DN|red   -   yellow  *5|A  |must go to motor (rear vent)|
| SUN RF OPN/CLOSE|red   -   green     |A  |at motor or sunroof relay *6|
|   SUN ROOF LIMIT|RED / blue or grn/wht |-  |at sunroof relay  *6        |
|        RADIO 12V|blue / YELLOW         |+  |stereo or amp *7            |
|     RADIO GROUND|brown               |-  |stereo or amp *7            |
|     RADIO SWITCH|gray                |+  |stereo or amp *7            |
| RADIO ILLUMINATE|WHITE/ green         |-  |dimmer switch               |
|       LF SPEAKER|pink   -   violet   |non|stereo or amp *7            |
|       RF SPEAKER|lt. green  -   blue |non|stereo or amp *7            |
|       LR SPEAKER|black  -   yellow   |non|stereo or amp *7            |
|       RR SPEAKER|red   -   white     |non|stereo or amp *7            |

Notes:

NOTE: Some models have an immobilizer system that needs to be bypassed during remote start.  Use DEI module 555F or 555U to bypass.  *1  they will test only by operating the key in the passenger door lock cylinder, not the rocker switch on the door itself.  *2  door lock ECU and theft ECU are in the center console.  *3  located at one of the coils on top of the valve cover, use the wire that is NOT BLACK/ white, WHITE/ black, or black  *4  rear wiper pink/black(-) at wiper switch  *5 rear open & close motors are common through the switch  *6  sunroof relay located front center under headliner.  *7  stereo amplifier in center console below doorlock and theft ECU.  *8  the integration relay is at the bottom of the fusebox.  *9  This is for the power sliding side door.

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i watched an installer put an aftermarket alarm on my 01 corolla and had asked him about using a relay for the child safety thing for the power door locks and he said that there was no use for that...what he did was used the unlock/lock switch from the front passenger switch to unlock and lock the car without using any additional wiring/relays....will this also work for the sienna..also, do you recommend that i take the existing keyless entry system out or work around it or just start out fresh...again thanks so much for all you guys' help...much appreciated..
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There's no need to find or remove the factory keyless; keep it in place for when you sell the car.  If you're keeping the car a long time, remove the batteries from the factory remotes, as batteries can sometimes leak after they sit around for a few years.

The installer on your 2001 Corolla was probably using the wires that test off the passenger key cylinder, which is what most tech sheets show.  If you're curious, run through the procedure I mention above.  Open a window.  Open the door.  Press Lock on the the door.  Close the door.  .......... Reach in the window and press Unlock; you can't get it to open, can you?  Now, press Disarm on your alarm's remote--does the door unlock now?  If so, the installer caught the correct wires.  If it doesn't unlock, that means he incorrectly used the wires coming from the switch, but you never ran into the problem until now.

So in any event, just use the wires in either kick panel, that test by turning the key back and forth in the keyhole in the door.  That's all you need.  If your alarm has two-stage unlocking, hook up both of its unlock outputs to the correct key-unlock wire in the driver's kick.  If your alarm has a single stage unlock, hook it up in the passenger kick.  (Or, if you're too lazy to run wires over to the passenger side----hook it up in the driver's kick, but program the brain to pulse this wire twice when you press the disarm button--you should find that feature in the programming instructions of the alarm.)

Will your alarm also be equipped with a remote start?  Does your van have the transponder chip in the key?


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