whining sound from starter

Hi there guys

Greetings from New Zealand!

I would just like to know why my car doesn't start after installing a dual immobiliser alarm.

The alarm is a Uniden VS2600XR. Car which I have installed it into is a Subaru B4 Legacy 2000.

My car has a factory clutch starter kill, don't know if that will affect the starter in any way?

This is the way I installed it.

At the moment I don't have starter immobiliser wired up, but everytime I start the car up, a relay from the alarm brainseems to go crazy.

I am also unable to start up car until turbo timer is fully "loaded up" if you get what I'm trying to say.

Perhaps I'm missing a diode or two? ...or a brain ?

Any advice, comments, suggestions and criticism would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers.

Hey mate, I can physically hear the starter motor trying to start. But it is just whining. I have disconnected the starter immobiliser for now, but I still see dash lights when I start my car - no good.

I think you're right. What can I do to get rid of feedback? Where would I need to place diodes?

And could this have anything to do with my clutch interlock relay?

Cheers.

This sounds like the starter motor's bendix isn't mating with the flywheel. Most starter motors have double action starter solenoids within the starter itself - one to engage the starter motor windings and the other to hold the bendix against the flywheel. Oddly enough it sounds like the solenoid is activating the motor but not holding the bendix. Could be the way you cut the wires.

Secondly, relays usually buzz when it's receiving insufficient voltage/current.

I'll check the make/model/year is your car and I'll see if I can give you an idea which are the best wires to cut for both a starter and ignition kill.

Here's how your security system should be wired in your car.

ITEM     POLARITY     LOCATION

12V+           +               White wire at ignition switch harness

Ignition       +               Green wire at ignition switch harness. Cut this wire for igntion immobilization.

Starter        +               WHITE/ Black wire at ignition switch harness.  Cut this wire for starter immobilization.

I suggest that if your starter or ignition kills are on-board then use outboard relays instead. Be sure to use the ignition signal from the key side to feed the relay coils of the immobilizers after you've done the ignition kill.

Also, I don't get what you mean by turbo loaded up.

The colour of the wires are incorrect. According to the 4-wire loom coming off my ignition barrel, 12V+ is Black, Ignition is BLACK/ White, Starter is BLACK / YELLOW and ACC is BLACK/ Blue. I am using ACC as ignition signal as I am running a turbo timer. I cannot use ignition as it gets immobilised.

I have a GReddy Turbo Timer, and when I put my keys in onto "ON", the display on the turbo-timer will show the company logo and blink for abit, before showing "1:00" (amount of time the timer is set for). Whilst it is showing the company logo, etc, etc, The car will crank, but won't start. (No funny noises here funny enough). After it is "loaded up" (when it shows 1:00), I am then able to start the car up.

How do I go about doing this using my alarm? There are 4 wires coming out of the alarm brain (which I assume is connected to relays inside the alarm) Do I use them for the external relay setup?

And with this immobiliser, it is kinda weird seeing as even though it is dis-armed, the pair of wires do not show continuity?

Sorry about having to explain so much, I just would like to get this sorted out.

Cheers Big Dog :)

Hey mate. No remote start. According to the instructions, it just says cut starter and put either wire to key side/coil side. Same as the ignition immobiliser.

So there should be 12V+ source to ignition sense while starting?

There is no alarm auxiliary sadly.

Will try this and psot results. Cheers