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ttpayne

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Posted: March 04, 2009 at 5:49 PM / IP Logged

I am looking to put a little more boom in a jeep grand cherokee. I was looking a the type x's and i think thjey are what i want. i want to do a sealed box, fiber glass or not i havent really decided. i was wondering how i should go about the amp wiring. i want to run it at 4 ohms because from what i hear it has tighter bass and when you listen to dubstep thats all you want.

anyways anyone want to recommend and amp or box design. i am looking for best possible sound quality

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ttpayne

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Posted: March 04, 2009 at 5:49 PM / IP Logged

oh and my price limit is 2000

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6thaveme

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Posted: March 05, 2009 at 6:18 AM / IP Logged

If u want two alpine type x subs and plan on wiring them at a final impediance of 4ohms?? plan on spending a pretty penny.Only because those subs require a min of 1000 rms for both subs.Most amps truelly rated at 1000 rms at 4ohms are going to cost you lot.Those subs can handle 2000 rms if u would like to hear them at their full potential.By wiring both subs down to 2ohms you could afford an amp with real world power rateings to power those puppies.My recomandation to you is get a seperate battery and a decent amp pushing 1500 to2000 rms at 2ohms .If u buy two dual 2 ohm type x subs you can series the voice cooils to get a total impediance of 2 ohms.Or you could even buy two type x subs dual 40hm voice coils and wire the voice coils parallel to get a final impediance of 1ohm.This page should help you with wiring your new subs to get the correct impediance https://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/woofer_configurations.asp?Q=2&I=22

If your heart is struck on 4 ohms then go with a jl audio slash series amp its 1000rms at eaither 1.5 or 4ohms.msrp onthat amp a 1000$but in the end you will be much happy have any other questions let me no

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Posted: March 05, 2009 at 3:18 PM / IP Logged

6thaveme wrote:

If u want two alpine type x subs and plan on wiring them at a final impediance of 4ohms?? plan on spending a pretty penny.

Why? There are dozens of amplifiers out there that'll do a real 1KW into 4 ohms.

OR... Since 6th seems to think there is nothing besides HiFonics, the PDX was designed FOR that woofer, SPECIFICALLY. 1000 WRMS (mine actually birth-sheeted at 1176 watts RMS), into 2 ohms or 4 ohms. You COULD wire two woofers to a single one of those amps, for 500WRMS each, but one each would be better! Around 700 retail, one each will still get you in under budget.

With that extra money, BUY AN ALTERNATOR! I don't want you to come back here in a month, saying "I got 2000 watts, and I put in a 200F cap, and my lights still dim! What's wrong?" You will HAVE TO HAVE a larger alternator. This will not be an option.

It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

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The last sentence in your first post is what caught my eye. You really need to look at Morel and the Ultimo subwoofer. It is one of the finest tonally responsive subwoofers on the market today.

http://www.morelhifi.com/products/mob_subwoofers_ultimo.html

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Posted: March 05, 2009 at 8:09 PM / IP Logged

6thaveme wrote:

wrong again...the rms power rating is NOT a how much power the subwoofer REQUIRES. 10 watts would do just fine in an efficient enclosure.

Please explain your wealth of knowledge WHY the subwoofers would require 1000 watts rms minimum between the two subwoofers.

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Posted: March 05, 2009 at 10:25 PM / IP Logged

I have two type x 12's in the trunk of my jetta. Running them off a kicker 850.2 amp. They are in a sealed box with 1.25 cubes per sub which i believe is the maximum recommended by alpine. They are splitting the power of the amp and still pound/sound pretty good. For the price of these subs which are very expensive in my mind i have had much better results. The ONLY reason i bought them because it was a sweet deal ($250) for both new. After hearing them...i really don't know if i would recommend them. Honestly i have had money better spent.

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Posted: March 08, 2009 at 11:54 AM / IP Logged

Bump....6thaveme I'm wanting to know why the subs require 1000 watts between them

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6thaveme

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Posted: March 08, 2009 at 5:56 PM / IP Logged

omg im sorry i missed this one im glad your waiting becuase this one slipped my mind just read all your comments today WOW can i even try and help someone without you guys jumping down my throat like a bunch of no it alls and makeing everything i say look stupid.Look here buddyyyyyyy you will never get a system to sound good with 10 watts no matter what enclosure you have my freind...And those subs can handle1000 rms and will play to their fullest with 1000 rms not with 800 or 950 with 1000 so tell me why alpines specs say 1000 then i didnt make the number up alpine did so stop makeing me look bad..Ya i kno wuts comeing next hempist.....your gunna say but daaaa enclosure is what makes it sound good durrrrrrrrrrrr we nooooo but if you built the box to alpines specs then 1000 rms is when the sub will play to its fullest.Yes i kno if you tune the box to your desire you can make it sound good with only 500 watts omg you guys need to chyll out

VOLT DO YOU SEE THESE GUYS MAN

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Posted: March 08, 2009 at 6:22 PM / IP Logged

6thaveme wrote:

VOLT DO YOU SEE THESE GUYS MAN

Seriously? That's a response? He sees, and he has JUST as big a headache trying to read that as anybody else does. Dude, WAY not winning any popularity contests with responses like that. Do you really want people to take you even HALF-WAY seriously? Slow down, THINK about what you are typing. Say one sentence of it in your head first, then type it EXACTLY as you said it. We can get through misspellings, but seriously, WHAT did you just say? Nothing. That was a nonsense rant...

One word descrubes most of the regular posters, here: ADULT. That was NOT an adult response.

It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

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