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bigmikeww 
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Posted: March 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM / IP Logged  
Just go with the pioneer. They are cheap and sound good for what you want to spend. If you haven't heard of the name before, for this price range, its probably crap.
flogger11 
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Posted: March 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM / IP Logged  
Bang for the buck you cant beat the Phoenix Gold RSDc subs. 
rfhvhtoo 
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Posted: March 22, 2009 at 4:30 PM / IP Logged  

Hey everyone i have finally made my decision. It was a long fought battle between Powerbass, lanzar, SPL, Lanzar, planet audio, hifonics, and some other low cost companies but with the Airspace, mounting depth, QTC, and rms wattage. I came out with...

The Powerbass M-10, M-series :

• Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 600W

• Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 300W
• Nominal Impedancel : Single 4 ohm
• Voice Coil Size : 2"
• Frequency Response : 29Hz - 500Hz
• Sensitivity : 91dB/W/M
• Motor Structure : 140 oz
• Mounting Depth : 5.3"

Enclosure Specs:

 
Optimum Sealed Vol.
 
Standard
 
Metric
 
Gross Vb Internal
 
0.75 cu. ft
 
21.24 Liters
 
F3 (-3dB Cutoff)
 
48 Hz
 
48 Hz
 
Poly-Fill
 
Yes
 
Yes
 
Qtc
 
.83
 
.83
 
Pe (Watts-Rms)
 
100 - 300 Watts
 
100 - 300 Watts
 
Acceptable Volumes
 
(.5 - 1.3 cu. ft)
 
(14.16 - 37.51 Liters)

I chose this subwoofer because-

  • The 300 RMS wattage of the subs for my 1300wrms T10001bd amplifier is perfect for 4 of these. Because I am able to get the subs full SPL capabilities without maxing out my amplifier. (in a sealed enclosure, I know ported would be much better)
  • The QTC suggest that this sub is capable of playing nice low notes in a sealed enclosure
  • My enclosure is going to be about 2.75 cbft so the minimum .5cbft is perfect.
  • the mounting depth is good for a easy enclosure build under my back seat of my truck. ( rear seat lift)

I will be starting out with 2 of these subs. And if I am impressed I will buy 2 more and build the four 10inch enclosure

If im not impress then Lanzar and pioneer will definately be in the running

Thanks for everyones suggestions.

I can't hear you!
rfhvhtoo 
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Posted: March 25, 2009 at 10:45 PM / IP Logged  

Yeah change of plans im gonna go with the 4 Pioneer TS-W258D2. Ive been doing even more extensive research and these just came out and with a beatiful frequency range of 20-180hz. ( I listen to alot of bass dropping songs) hopefully this means that it is specializing in this low range very well and Alot of people like the first model. i think this is one of those subs you can just kind of trust... if that makes sense. 

Do you think it would be a problem to possibly under power them 20-50 watts? well not really a problem but just noticable?

I can't hear you!
ragsports 
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Posted: March 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM / IP Logged  
nope wont be a problem at all, you wont even notice that, it might translate into a 1 db loss, This you will not be able to tell. ust build a good box to spec, or use a box building program and it should sound good. I have never been disapointed with pioneer, with your budget they would have been my choice as well
pcguy760 
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Posted: March 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM / IP Logged  

ragsports wrote:
Lanzar subwoofers usually dont have very good build quality and if you are concerned at all with sound quality these wouldent be the choice for you. With that being said your budget really limits you on the quality of a woofer you will be able to get your hands on.. Have you ever looked into pioneer subwoofers? They are not the best by any means, but with the money you are trying to spend they are a good choice. They are loud and usually hit the lows very well.

I second that because I use to work in a car stereo shop and when a customer installed some Lanzar subs it would almost certain they would be back with some wierd problem like the cone seperating from the spider or the flexible wire that goes into the sub from the terminals breaking off, etc. I dunno how long way they have come now...

pcguy760 
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Posted: March 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM / IP Logged  

Speaking of cheap subs that sound good, I bought a set of 15" Ultimate dual 2 ohm (yeah ULTIMATE wow) off Ebay from some teenager who never got to use it. Long story short, I wish I could find more of these because these things sound GREAT. I have looked high and low but never found any info on these. I try not to put too much power into them though - the SQ is amazing for it being Ultimate not to mention they sound loud too.

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Posted: March 26, 2009 at 12:48 AM / IP Logged  
Try these Pioneers... Right spot on your 150 budget, including tax and shipping!
There's where I'd start, and go up from there.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
rfhvhtoo 
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Posted: March 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM / IP Logged  

Yeah I was looking and the CHAMPION series 10inch I can find for like 60 bucks! then I was looking Both the Pioneer and Pioneer Premiere have came out with a new Champion model subwoofer. (The premiere about 10-20$ more) I was trying to see what the difference was between the subs and all im seeing is

the spider on the Pioneer Premier (TS-W1008D2|D4)  is "Aramid Fiber" and the Spider on the Normal Pioneer model ( TS-W258D2|D4) it is "Conex"

Is it really worth paying more? Does the Aramid Fiber allow more excursion or is more durable?

and the only difference between the Old (TS-W1007D2|D4 ) and the new TS-W1008D2|D4 Champion series is the Gasket is now "ABS" not "Molded"

What is the Gasket? Is this going to increase anything or make the sub more efficient?

Thanks Again. And Also I am buying 4 of them.

I can't hear you!
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