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chev104275

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i have a customer that wants a starter kill in his 07 milan he wants somthing different for a trigger i mentioned high beams or rear defrost or power windows but he wasnt happy with any of those

anyone have any ideas ?

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Posted: March 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM / IP Logged

How about using a single zone perimeter sensor that will allow the vehicle to start with a pass of the hand over the sensor? The trigger only has to be long enough that it will allow the owner to start the vehicle and after, it will be normally open.

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Posted: March 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM / IP Logged

if hes willing to give up his cigarette lighter turn it into a kill, if its not pushed in like a lighter car wont start, he can take lighter with him when he leaves no thief carries around a cigarette lighter(it will no longer work as a power outlet for the lighter or anything else)

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How would you wire that up most cig lighters are just power and ground it doesn't change if the lighter is pushed in or not mabey I

missing something please explain your idea it sounds like a cool idea

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thanks guys for your replies on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?

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Posted: April 01, 2009 at 10:45 AM / IP Logged

you would use a relay, cut the starter wire and run

key side - pin 87

starter motor side to pin 30

cut the power lead to cig lighter and run

power side to pin 86

center pin of cig lighter to

pin 85

what happens with a cig lighter is when you push it in as if to light it the center pin of lighter sends ground meeting the 12volts to heat the coil

so when lighter is pulled relay is closed(pin 87a to pin 30_ starter wire is not connected

when pushing lighter in pin 85 gets ground, opening relay so pins 87 and 30 make contact reconnecting starter wire

since power feed is no longer connected to lighter this is why it no longer works as a lighter or power source

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chev104275 wrote:

..on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?

Yes, if you know where to wave the hand.

Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.

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chev104275 wrote:

on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?

You have to set the sensor low and have it hidden. Under the driver's seat, in the glove box, center top of dash by the windshield..... It would not be any different if you use the cigarette lighter or any other disable technique, if the thief finds the bypass, it will be enabled.

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the big advantage to the cig lighter is A) customer can take lighter with him putting it in his pocket like a keyfob, ( i dont know of too many people let alone thieves that carry a socket style cigarette lighter with them)

B)even if lighter is left in the car not something many people would think to engage to try to start car(plus car has chipped key and unlike chryslers i havent seen too many ford keys defeated)

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Posted: April 04, 2009 at 1:20 AM / IP Logged

the coolest thing would be a pressure switch maybe under the carpet maybe behind a dash panel. my wife has the 06 fusion and theres a perfect place to cut and glass one in next to the dimmer switch. done right that should look cool just make sure no matter what you do theres some kind of back up switch. just as a side note/question it has the transponder why put a starter kill on it other than just to say it has a starter kill ? you have to have the key/ transponder to start it

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