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helpdad 
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Posted: April 04, 2009 at 10:57 PM / IP Logged  
Hi folks, my son installed a prostart ct3200 in his 98 s10 v6. got home to him very frustrated. couldn't get programed don't know how many attempts. now have remote programed but truck won't start by remote but will work ok in "pit stop" mode. He missed the second ignition wire, rectified, but when given the remote start command truck will turn over but won't start. tried the reset bit in the manual but won't reset. any suggestions?
thanks in advance
john
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Posted: April 04, 2009 at 11:09 PM / IP Logged  
Is he using some kind of bypass to get past the passlock II?
helpdad 
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so far here's what we have done. checked wiring, added second ignition and checked jumper on module. moved tach wire to proper place on coil. tried reset, couldn't get 8 flash reply from unit
john
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here is some wiring info.also as mikvot said what bypass are you using to get around passlock

CircuitWire ColorLocation
  Constant 12 voltsRED & REDIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
  Ignition 12 voltsPINKIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
  StarterYELLOWIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
  Dome LightGRAY/BLACK (-)AT BODY BUSSED ELECTRICAL CENTER *
  Trunk PinN/A
  Parking LampL BLUE (+)AT HEADLIGHT SWITCH **
  LockL BLUEAT BODY BUSSED #202
  UnlockWHITEELECTRICAL CENTER *
* Body Bussed Electrical Center Is Located Behind The Driver Dash Above The Driver Kick Panel. ** L BLUE (+) Wire For Parking Lights Is Also Located At The Body Bussed Electrical Center.
#202- See Positive Pulse Door Lock Diagram. 
  Tach SignalWHITEAT POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE * #238>
  Ignition #2ORANGEIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS (HEAT/AC)
  Ignition #3WHITEIGNITION SW. HARNESS (TRANSMISSION)
  AccessoryBROWNIGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
  Neutral SafetyNOT GROUNDING TYPE -OEM SWITCH OPENS STARTER CIRCUIT
  Brake LightL BLUE (+)AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
  Reverse LightGRAY (+)AT SWITCH ON TRANSMISSION
  Rear DefrostN/A
* Powertrain Control Module Is Located On The Passenger Side Of The Engine Compartment.
#238 - See G.M. PASSLOK II Diagram. 

helpdad 
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must be already there. correct me if i'm wrong but if he has a hardware cut key and it works the passlock is bypassed. he just bought this rig a week ago.
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Nope, not on passlock II....the resistor is inside the key cylinder, so any common cut key will work. He will need to bypass the passlock II to make it start. You can buy a bypass module, but there is a diagram somewhere here, that will tell you how to do it with a couple of relays and some resistors....which is the way i prefer on the older GM stuff. I'll look for it
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you need a module to bypass the passlock 2 that vehicle needs a module called plxr from xpresskit there are wires comming from ignition cylinder that the module connects to .do you notice a security light on your dash,when you turn the key on to acc
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here is a link to the bypass module you need http://www.xpresskit.com/product.aspx?prodid=PLJX
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 prostart ct3200, trouble -- posted image.

here is the way mikvot is talking about hope this helps

PASSLOCK-II bypass procedure

There are 2 types of Passlock-II systems. To determine which system you have, follow these instructions;
1: Locate two wires, which are THIN and are in the main ignition harness.. ORANGE / Black (or Black) and Yellow.

2: Cut the Yellow wire, and strip back some of the insulation from the ORANGE / Black (Or Black) wires.

3: Turn the ignition to the "Run" position ( don't crank the starter). Measure and record the value measured from the KEY SIDE of the Yellow wire, to the BLACK/ Orange wire.

4: Turn the key to the "Crank" position and release. Now read the value again.

prostart ct3200, trouble -- posted image.

5: If the value changed, follow "Method#1". If the value stayed the same, follow "Method#2".

helpdad 
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Thanks a million guys, one thing, why would the truck run in pit stop mode if there is a security feature. I pulled the key out of the ignition, or at least I think i did.
john
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