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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM / IP Logged  
Well I followed the Indiana Jones labyrinth of press this, press that and got the system switched over to an automatic transmission for
remote start.
The car starts 100% of the time with the 1-way remote but only 30%
of the time with the 2-way. When it fails, the damn remote kicks back "Remote Star Error". I can then use the other remote and the 2-way
will update the display to reflect the engines been started.
Ideas?
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 3:40 PM / IP Logged  
zenica wrote:
Well I found the parking lights.
Note to self: never ever attempt an alarm in a 350Z ever again.
This car is getting even with me---for allowing me to install my Avic D3 with such effortless bliss. Oh wait, I get it, that was to lull me into a false sense of security and thinking, how hard could the alarm be. Got me.
I sure hope I get this done by May 5th.
Chris,
You suggested coupling the 5901 OEM security arm/disarm wires into one and connect that to the hazards.
What then will arm/disarm the OEM security system? I would like to retain the OEM system and functionality.
That and I still haven't figured how the hazard wire works to connect it to the 5901 without the risk of damage to the evil Z or the satanic alarm
Ok hopefully I can explain this right.
When you turn the key in the driver's door, you're locking and arming the factory alarm at the same time.
When you turn the key the other way, one turn disarms the factory alarm and (mechanically, not electrically) unlocks the driver's door. A second turn of the key electrically unlocks both doors.
So.......
When you hit Lock on your Viper, its green output will lock the doors and set the factory alarm.
When you hit Unlock on your Viper, its blue wire will disarm the factory alarm and unlock the doors. (But you must program for "double pulse unlock" in the settings menu.)
Furthermore, when you hit the remote start, and the car's ignition turns on and the XK07 shows the car a valid transponder....the factory alarm disarms all by itself during remote start.
Therefore, you pretty much don't need the Viper's disar or rearm outputs for anything.
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM / IP Logged  
One more thing about the comfort closure and all that:
The Nissan window rollup/down feature doesn't work with the ignition on.
Even after you shut the ignition off, it doesn't work until after a 45-second delay, or you can open a door and the delay will be bypassed.
That should all be written in the car's owner's manual.
Therefore, just keep in mind that the feature won't work if the remote starter is on, or for 45 seconds afterward.
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 3:46 PM / IP Logged  
zenica wrote:
Well I followed the Indiana Jones labyrinth of press this, press that and got the system switched over to an automatic transmission for
remote start.
The car starts 100% of the time with the 1-way remote but only 30%
of the time with the 2-way. When it fails, the damn remote kicks back "Remote Star Error". I can then use the other remote and the 2-way
will update the display to reflect the engines been started.
Ideas?
DEI unfortunately had a LOT problems like this, with various fixes that didn't seem to always work.
I really don't remember/know all the details, as I don't regularly install that brand, but I do remember reading all about it.
After many, many months, DEI says they've finally figured out what was wrong, fixed it, and new product is becoming available for warranty swaps.
The first thing to do would be to contact who sold it to you, and see if they'll replace it for you.
Regardless, if the 1-way remote works correctly, your install is probably going well........just try to put the brain someplace that won't be to hard to unplug it later when/if/how you can get it replaced.
P.S. You could try removing the battery from the 2-way remote for a few minutes, reinsert it, then go into the menu to program new remotes and reprogram both remotes..............I honestly don't think that'll be of any help whatsoever, but it would cost nothing to try.
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged  
Dang it.
That just ircks me.
After all this effort and no remote start from the one remote I will want to use. That really gets me.
How do I program for "double pulse unlock" in the settings menu?
Wait, don't tell me...More Indiana Jones crap?
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM / IP Logged  
I wish I could get my hands around the throat of the idiot at DEI that came up with this "menu" system.
It would be easier doing jumping jacks with 100lbs bricks in my shoes than following this $#@!& menu.
Now, when it is armed, the windows roll up, but not enough and when the system is disarmed, the windows go down but the doors do not unlock.
Just great.
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zenica wrote:
Dang it.
That just ircks me.
After all this effort and no remote start from the one remote I will want to use. That really gets me.
How do I program for "double pulse unlock" in the settings menu?
Wait, don't tell me...More Indiana Jones crap?
I know the warranty/recall thing sucks. I hope there will be a DEI installer here to verify that yours is one of the affected models...but I think it is.
Programming:
Ok, so there are a couple of menus in there....one for the remote start settings, one for the security settings, and I think maybe one more? I forget.
Anyway, it's in there with the security settings......look for something like "door lock output" and it'll have choices in there like "single" "double" or maybe "1 pulse" or "2 pulses" something like that.
If you plan to change other features, like passive arming, ignition-controlled locking.....maybe just wait and change all of them at once.
If the car sucessfully unlocks when you press Unlock twice on the remote, you can rest assure that you wired them correctly. Once you get to programming, all will be well.
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 4:18 PM / IP Logged  
ok, I got things back to "stock", the windows don't move on arm/disarm. The door locks unlock on the 2nd press of the unlock/disarm.
I then set up comfort what ever so the windows go up on arm/lock.
Now, how do I get the remote to control the windows down? without making the unlock doors function go away or become 60 clicks on the remote instead of the current 2
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM / IP Logged  
you can use an auxillary channel on the alarm to control the windows, the RED / white wire would be the one you need, if the unlock wire when activated constantly, rolls down the windows you can tie this wire in with the unlock (blue) wire of the alarm, diode on each wire stripe of the diode facing the alarm.
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 4:48 PM / IP Logged  
t&t tech wrote:
you can use an auxillary channel on the alarm to control the windows, the RED / white wire would be the one you need, if the unlock wire when activated constantly, rolls down the windows you can tie this wire in with the unlock (blue) wire of the alarm, diode on each wire stripe of the diode facing the alarm.
Right now, the way it is set (I changed the menu unlock to dbl pulse)
I can lock with one press of the lock button, the windows will roll up.
I can press unlock once and both doors unlock but the windows do not move.
Aux 1 is tied to the blue wire for unlock but it isn't rolling the windows down when I press the unlock button twice.
I suspect I have both it wired wrong and am using the remote wrong.
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