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a couple quirks with the viper 5901


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jackass09 
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400 dollars its the same price u get it for in bestbuy and they install it for free i got mine from them and paid around 475!
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Well I paid $230 shipped for my 5901.
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Another little thing, when I turn on the remote start and the car is running, if I disarm the system the car will stop running, but then it will start again a couple seconds later.
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sounds to me like you used GWA (Ground while Armed) and not GWR (Ground while Running).....
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^ Hm? I'm not sure what you mean. Are you implying that either wire needs to be grounded for it to work right? There is no wire like that.
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No, what kgerry is saying is that the GWA goes to ground when armed and GWR goes to ground when running, it has nothing to do with physically grounding these wires.
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Right, but those are outputs, not inputs so I don't see what that has to do with the engine shutting off when I disarm the car. And it happens whether the car is previously armed or disarmed.
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i am only speculating that if you required a bypass module and used GWA instead of GWR then that's exactly what would happen, as the module would disengage when you disarm the alarm....

other than that the alarm and R/S functions are mutually exclusive, so one should not affect the other....did you wire up the flex 2 relay??   it could be that it is disengaging when you disarm the alarm, dropping out one of your IGN's.....   again, just speculating......

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^ Yes I did. I wired it exactly like this:
1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT <--- direct to ignition 2 wire
2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87 <--- constant +12v
3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT <--- direct to accessory wire
4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) <--- start side of starter wire
5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE) <--- key side of start wire
6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT <--- constant +12v
7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT <--- car side of ignition wire
8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAY <--- key side of ignition wire
9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT <--- constant +12v
I got my new parts for the alarm today so when I'll get that chance I'll install them. Maybe that's all this is.
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But what is weird is that after the engine shuts off, it starts backt up again. So the alarm is engaging the starter motor again, so it seems to me like it's more than an ignition wire dropping voltage to an ignition wire.
But again maybe it's just a brain/alarm problem.
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