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icearrow6 
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Posted: May 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM / IP Logged  
First. The amp is a class a/b which means its ganna get hot...if you are using it at 2 ohms (like your setup). It hasn't shut off on you has it?
Second. An amp that would run all four speakers is going to be pricey...because the speakers are single coil 4 ohm. So u must look for a MONOBLOCK 1 ohm stable amp, with about 800W RMS.
Your current amp puts out 360W, which is enough for the P1 but not the Shallow pioneers...they are about 400W RMS.
If you wanted to get an amp for all 4, You will not be able to get all the power necessary, because there is a large power handling difference between the P1's and the Pioneers.
So I suggest getting another amp to run your pioneers...about 800W RMS at 2 ohms. (1 ohm stable).
Hope this helps.
locologan 
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I think my speakers are 250rms so would I need a 500rms amp and what class should I get so it don't get hot
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locologan 
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Posted: May 15, 2009 at 3:20 PM / IP Logged  
Can you recomend some amps that won't get so hot and will work for aroun 2 to 3 hundred
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icearrow6 
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Posted: May 15, 2009 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged  
locologan wrote:
I think my speakers are 250rms so would I need a 500rms amp and what class should I get so it don't get hot
Thats the point..you don't want an amp to "just" make the power, U wanna have an amp with plenty of power available...so its easier for the amp to produce the 500W RMS the woofers want. Get it?
Say the new amp is capable of 1000W RMS at 1 ohm. Set up with your woofer you'll get a 2 ohm load, so think of this as being half as easy for the amp to give you 500W RMS.
Be careful though cus this does NOT mean set the amp gains to "half way" and it'll all be ok. There is a section on this site about setting your gains.... HERE
I'll look into AMPs.
i am an idiot 
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A flat woofer is a good thing if you do not have room for anything else.  However they are not the most durable things out there.   In my opinion, overpowering those subs is NOT a good idea at all.  
locologan 
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Posted: May 16, 2009 at 12:41 AM / IP Logged  

i been lokking up amps on ebay heres a couple i found let me know what would be best . if you can just let me know which one would be best for 2 pioneers and possilby 4 pioneer subs if i ever add 2 more

http://cgi./NEW-HIFONICS-BXi-1210D-CLASS-D-MONOBLOCK-AMP-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ220374168782QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item334f52f4ce&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./HIFONICS-BRUTUS-BXI1610D-D-CLASS-CAR-AMP-1600W-NEW_W0QQitemZ160325106728QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item25541efc28&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./MA-AUDIO-HK2000D-1800w-CLASS-D-MONO-CAR-AMPLIFIER-AMP_W0QQitemZ350197020257QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item51895e7661&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./08-MTX-AUDIO-MONO-BLOCK-1000W-AMP-CAR-CLASS-D-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ220352061979QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item334e01a21b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A6%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./POWER-ACOUSTIK-OVN1-4000D-CLASS-D-MONO-AMPLIFIER-AMP-09_W0QQitemZ300313052519QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item45ec0d8567&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./POWER-ACOUSTIK-OVN1-4000D-CLASS-D-MONO-AMPLIFIER-AMP-09_W0QQitemZ300313052519QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item45ec0d8567&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi./PLANET-AUDIO-VX2200D-2250w-CLASS-D-MONO-AMPLIFIER-AMP_W0QQitemZ220397734040QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Amplifiers?hash=item3350ba8898&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A50

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icearrow6 
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Posted: May 16, 2009 at 12:55 PM / IP Logged  
i am an idiot wrote:
A flat woofer is a good thing if you do not have room for anything else.  However they are not the most durable things out there.   In my opinion, overpowering those subs is NOT a good idea at all.  
.. I didn't say you wanted to over power the woofers, I meant that the amp should be MORE than able to drive the woofers...
...links to ebay are not allowed in the forum...read the rules....
locologan 
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Posted: May 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM / IP Logged  
Oops sorry I didn't know well what would be better if you looked up the model numbers and is a class d mono block 1ohm stable what I need
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