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jxs1812 
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Posted: May 31, 2009 at 3:09 PM / IP Logged  
Hi, I'm only a beginner in car audio, and this will be the first system in my 2009 lancer ES. I am trying to put 2 12'' subs and an amplifier that can "easily" or "relatively easily" power the two subs ^^
[I want my system to have around 700~1000rms(both subs combined)]
I was looking at
1. KENWOOD KAC-9104D (KAC9104D) Class D MONO 1800W AMPLIFIER w/ (2) KFC-W3012 12" SVC 1200W SUBWOOFER (information can be found at (http://.../ke3.html).
there are couple other amps and subs i was looking into, which are
2.CRUNCH PZI1500.1 (PZI15001) MONO-Channel 1500W POWERZONE Series AMPLIFIER (http://.../crupzi15001.html)
3.HIFONICS TXi-7508 (TXi7508)MONO Class-A/B 750W TITAN Series AMPLIFIER (http://.../hiftxi7508.html)
4.SOUNDSTORM F1200M MONO-Block 1200W FORCE Series AMPLIFIER(http://.../sosf1200m.html)
5.KENWOOD KAC-8104D (KAC8104D)MONO Class-D 1000W AMPLIFIER(http://.../kenkac8104d.html)
6.KOLE AUDIO TRAX1-1800D (TRAX11800D)MONO Class-D 1800W TRAX Series AMPLIFIER(http://.../koltrax11800d.html)
7.KOLE AUDIO PH1-2000D (PH12000D)MONO Class-D 2000W PHANATIK Series AMPLIFIER (http://.../kolph12000d.html)
8.NITRO BMW-648 (BMWX-648)MONO-Channel 2500W AMPLIFIER(http://.../nitbmw648.html)
9.POWER ACOUSTIK OVN1-3000D (OVN13000D)MONO Class-D 3000W GOTHIC Series 2009 AMPLIFIER (http://.../pakovn13000d.html)
and
my ideal system would be
1.2xPerformance Teknique ICBM-5712DX
and
2.Nitro BMW-487
What do you guys think? What system do you think will fit my car the best?
p.s. Which amplifier manufacturers should i trust? I hear from places to places that amplifiers nowadays aren't trustworthy.....can u give me some advices on which amps to trust?
Thank you so much for your help guys, and have a great day
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Joon
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Posted: May 31, 2009 at 3:30 PM / IP Logged  
Of all the amps you have listed, I would stick with one of the Kenwoods.  Kenwood would not be my first choice in amplifiers, but on your list, they would definitely be the one to stick with.
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i work with that amp daily and although it pushes a bit of power for the price i dont think it is very clean as compared to the rockford fosgate and alpine amplifiers that are also on my boards. The subs have a foam surround and it is already starting to show signs of wear after only about 3 months of normal(non abusive) play in the store. Both subs and amp are a decent bang for the buck. What is your price range so maybe we can recommend something else as well
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We do that exact Kenwood amp and subs as a package deal ...Sounds great...He said 3 months...We sell a few sets a week of those  at least every month w/ minimal problems...In fact cant remember last warranty issue...
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tommy... 
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We have used the 8104D sometimes in its place...Have used the soundstorm a couple times(actually no problem...but stick w/ the Kenwood...)
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jxs1812 
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Thank you for your input guys. Well i'm lookin at about 500~600bux for 1amp+2subs+dual sealed box+installation...i found a place that said $170 for installation, so around 400~500bux for 1 amp and 2 subs+a dual box....
I also found about Alpine MRP-M500 (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500MRPM500/Alpine-MRP-M500.html?tp=115)
do you think this would be a good amp for PIONEER TS-W1207D4 (TSW1207D4)
12" DUAL 4-Ohm PREMIER Series 1200W SUBWOOFER? (http://.../piotsw1207d4.html)
Joon
jxs1812 
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and what kind of specs should i look at when i'm looking for an amp if i were to power 2x500rms watt (4 ohm dual coil subs) without overheating and over running the amp?
as in....would HIFONICS TXi-7508 (TXi7508)
MONO Class-A/B 750W TITAN Series AMPLIFIER
750 Watts RMS x 1 @ 1-Ohms
500 Watts RMS x 1 @ 2-Ohms
325 Watts RMS x 1 @ 4-Ohms
this be a good choice?
Joon
jxs1812 
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Thank you so much guys i feel bad for storming u guys with my questions. Thanks!!
Joon
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GO BIG beginner....1000w mono class D amp and forget about it. 400w of clean rms to compliment, battery, cap, cable and accessories. Any speaker will let you know where your investment went.(In some way) Budgets suck..... take your time...GO BIG!
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jxs1812 
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Posted: June 01, 2009 at 6:17 PM / IP Logged  
What do you guys think of this set up?
2x Performance Teknique ICBM-5712DX
(http://www......com/item_2181_Performance+Teknique+ICBM-5712DX.html)
and
KENWOOD KAC-8104D (KAC8104D)
MONO Class-D 1000W AMPLIFIER(http://.../kenkac8104d.html)
or
KENWOOD KAC-9104D (KAC9104D)
Class-D MONO 1800W AMPLIFIER (http://.../kenkac9104d.html)
or
Crunch PZi 1000.1
(http://www......com/item_9618_Crunch+PZi+1000.1.html)
What do you guys think?
I know crunch is a bad company, but is the amp also really bad?
Also, do you guys have any suggestions on the amps that can power those 2 500watt rms subs without problems? preferably under 200bux? or around 200bux?
Thanks guys
Joon
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