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howie ll

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 11:02 AM / IP Logged

!TERRIBLE NEWS! Fiat aims to relaunch Fiat and Alfa Romeo in the US market in 2011. Run and hide, don't worry when you turn the engines off you can listen to them rust.

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 1:29 PM / IP Logged

Now that GM has cut most of their lines, it makes sense for them to try and get into this market. Are they really that bad?

Hopefully I'll be finished with school so I can be done with working on cars for a living by that time, (tired of being upside down and losing my skin in dashes) but I know one is never TRULY done working on cars. ; )

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 3:06 PM / IP Logged

joch1314 wrote:

Are they really that bad?

Fiat = Fix It Again Tony I guess you are probably WAY TOO YOUNG to remember the infamous Fiat X 1/9

Let's Go Brandon Brown. Congratulations on your first Xfinity Series Win. LGBFJB

joch1314

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 3:16 PM / IP Logged

I guess I was too young...but not "WAY TOO YOUNG" (1980) not really big into cars when I was that age...unless your talking hot wheels and TYCO R/C cars.

...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..

howie ll

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 4:53 PM / IP Logged

Promise not to laugh but I actually long term borrowed an X19 when they first came out, my pal was a Fiat dealer. Boy did they go round corners. Fiats are collanders, the electrical systems were S**t, whereas French electrics fail after 3 years, they failed after a year, Lancias were pulled from the UK about 12 years ago, they'd rust across the welds after 1 year, Alfa Romeos look lovely but take down an interior panel, if it doesn't break in your hands, you'll find its held in by a Torx, two phillips and a hex head bolt.

lspker

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Posted: August 06, 2009 at 9:37 PM / IP Logged

That was annonced on this side of pond 2 years ago, guess you must be watching CNN. I'd rather use 3 tools to remove a pannel then have the velcro let go and have then pannel fall down going over a bump. Been working on Fiats and Alfas (older stuff) for the last few years. There not that bad, and some are pretty to look at.

howie ll

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Posted: August 07, 2009 at 4:06 AM / IP Logged

Fabulous to look at, but extremely fragile, frankly over here the Golfs (don't ask me why, few Jettas, everything's a hatchback), Foci and to a lesser extent Astra sweep the market. Everything else is a long way back. The VW/Audi/Skoda and (European) Focus build quality is streets ahead of anything coming out of Italy or France. Having said that Renault have vastly improved recently but the electrics are vastly over complicated. I used a new Clio recently for a few days, 1.5 turbo diesel, 95mph cruising at 42mpg BUT electronic power steering, all over the place at speed. It wasn't CNN (boring and anti- Israel) it was Automotive News.

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Posted: August 07, 2009 at 10:02 PM / IP Logged

Just more money for us. It helps to have a spaghetti specalist to work on the wiring. Whish we had more hatches over hear, but appaerently you guys used them all up. Build quality and design quality has taken gaint step backwards. There are a few exception. As far as the electronic steering, did you have it in drunk driver limp home mode?

cheers

howie ll

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Posted: August 08, 2009 at 2:56 PM / IP Logged

No I had the Clio in Howard thinking (wishing?) it was a Lotus Elise or TVR mode. Actually, a good mechanical is still quicker at speed and hard fast cornering, you know, the kinds of roads you (fortunately) don't really have any more in North America

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Posted: August 08, 2009 at 5:37 PM / IP Logged

Howie and Admin, check out the second video listed on this page. We might not have many of them, but we do have at least one left.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tail+of+the+dragon&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

Found some more roads near there also. There are a few clickable areas on this map. http://www.mindspring.com/~hume/motorcycle/area.html

Admin, you ready to go yet?

Let's Go Brandon Brown. Congratulations on your first Xfinity Series Win. LGBFJB

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