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wigs1l

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Posted: November 08, 2009 at 10:48 AM / IP Logged

Ok will give it a go

wigs1l

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Posted: November 13, 2009 at 6:14 AM / IP Logged

Hi there, just an update. Found the remote unlock pulse, it was the WHITE/ black.

So, connected pin 86 to WHITE/ black and joined pins 85+30 and grounded them. Connected 87 to BLACK/ orange, which is the feed to the GEM from hazard switch.

Can hear an audible click from the relay when I unlock, which shows we're on the right track, but indicators do not flash. GRRRRRRRRR!

So, do I try to go back and split 87 into four and connect up to the various blue+blue/red? (its starting to annoy me now!)

When I lock the car, no indicator. When I double lock, they all flash twice. I realise this is all done insdie the GEM, but there has to be a simple way for me now, as I've done most of it, just getting the output from 87 to go where I need it to!

Any more suggestions??

I was thinking of splitting 87 into two, and connecting to the 2 BLACK/ green coming from box 31 on the diagram I posted earlier.

Do you think this would work?

Or, maybe keeping 30+85 seperate, put 12v to 30 and keep 87 going to the BLACK/ orange?

howie ll

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Posted: November 13, 2009 at 10:13 AM / IP Logged

your first line connect the white black to 86, ground (earth) to 85, constant 12volts,fused at 20amps to 30, and 87 via the 2 x 1N5404 diodes band out to the blue and blue/red indicator leads on the GEM box. Job done. Now you've tested it, add the following. disconect the diodes and take 87 to 30 of your second relay, ignition to 86 and ground to 85, output from 87a to your diodes and the indicator lights. This mod wil stop the indicators flashing if you lock the car on the move. The way you wired it up you're very lucky you didn't burn out your locking system. I told you this on my first post so please listen. this would be a 5 minute job for me. In fact with 5 relays i could make this flash twice for lock and once for unlock!

wigs1l

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Posted: November 13, 2009 at 10:48 AM / IP Logged

Ok. Please don't lose patience! I'm trying to learn! As I say, I'm new to this, which is why your advice is valuable to me.

When you say I'm lucky I didn't burn out the locking system, I just followed your instructions from your last post on the first page!

I need all indicators to flash on unlock and you can see in the diagram, there are 2Xblue and 2Xblue/red wires comimng from the GEM to go to boxes 25+26, 33+34 and 35+36, which are each of the indicators, front, back, left and right.

Do I need 4 diodes to cover each of these?

And in your last post, if I use the output from 87a, does 87 stay unused on the second relay?

Again, I 'm sorry for being useless at this!

howie ll

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Posted: November 13, 2009 at 2:49 PM / IP Logged

87a is not used on the first relay, use 87. One the second relay use 87a not 87. This means that turning on the ignition wil prevent the indicators coming on if you lock the car whilst driving.

I will check with autodata on those blue wires at the GEM box, there should only be 2; blue and blue/red. If in doubt, test.

howie ll

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Posted: November 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM / IP Logged

Autodata says you're right, but I've only ever noticed two wires! If you find 4, test them, also I just remembered, if you probe with a test light with one end to earth, one wire, I THINK GREEN / WHITE will flash the indicators. Try it and let me know, it will be a much simpler circuit.

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