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xchrisx 
Copper - Posts: 197
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Joined: August 19, 2008
Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: December 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM / IP Logged  
Can I get some reviews on the following subwoofers and which I would be best going with for SPL.
MB Quart PWH304
500 Watts RMS / 1000 Watts MAXX Power Handling
SPL 1W/1m: 85dB
Impedance: 2 x 4 Ohm / 1 x 8
Wrap Around Motor Die-Cast Aluminum Basket
Diamond Cut Machined Sides
Dual 4 Ohm 3" (76mm) Voice Coil
Glass Fiber Former Aluminum Reinforced on Neck
Double Stack 120oz. High Intensity Ferrite Magnet
1" (25mm) Tall IIR Rubber Surround for More Cone Area
Maximum Compression Free Excursion of +/-1"
Additional Features: Finite Element Analysis Linear Flux Saturated Magnetic Plates with Chrome Finish, Injection Polypropylene Fill Honey Cone Structured Body with WPC Titanium Wet Powder Coating, Single Flat Connex Spider with Woven Tinsel Lead Wire, Injection Molded Cone Neck Support, Polypropylene Fill Dust cap with MB Quart Logo Hot Stamped, Custom Tooled Parallel Input Nickel Plated Push Type Terminals, Weight: 11.6kg, Sold by Each
Mobile Spec IS-10D
600 Watts RMS Power
102oz. Magnet
Frequency Response: 28Hz - 500Hz
Sensitivity: 88dB
Mounting Depth: 6.2"
Additional Features: Die-Cast Aluminum "Midnight" Chrome Basket, Black Carbon Fiber Woven Cone, TNL "Ribbed" Rubber Surround, 2.5" BASV Voice Coil, Double Stacked Motor Structure, Dual 4 Ohms Impedance
Power Bass Extreme 3XL121D
850 Watts RMS / 1700 Watts Peak Power Handling
3" Vented HD BASV Voice Coil Formers
Optimally Designed for Ported Enclosures
Dual 1 Ohm Voice Coils
Frequency Response: 31Hz-450Hz
Sensitivity (1W/1M): 91dB
Motor Structure: 552oz.
Mounting Depth: 7.75"
Sold by Each
Common Features: Non-Pressed Raw Pulp Cone Reduces Standing Long Waves, Custom CNC Cut, Cast Aluminum Basket, U-Turn High Roll Treated Foam Surround, Large Motor Structure Triple Stack Magnets for Increased SPL and Power Handling, Pro-lock Input Terminals, CNC Billet Aluminum Trim Ring Clamps
Thanks for any help I get!
bp
haemphyst 
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Joined: January 19, 2003
Location: Michigan, Bouvet Island
Posted: December 10, 2009 at 8:11 PM / IP Logged  
For SPL, the only choice is the Power Bass. It's the most efficient, with the "highest claimed" power handling. (It *IS* Power Bass, though, so be exceptionally wary of that number.) With an Fs of 31Hz, you will have zero semblance of sound quality, (it'll sound like shiite, man...) but you did specify that you wanted SPL, and that one in a big ol' 40 to 42Hz box will split your head open...
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
xchrisx 
Copper - Posts: 197
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Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: December 11, 2009 at 7:21 AM / IP Logged  
Okay, I was leaning that way, and I know that Power Bass isnt the best, but for the value, I definitely think its worth it. I can get them each for $185 per sub and I will be getting 2 of them, plus shipping which is like $15 together. Do you think its worth it? or can i find something else for that price that will be better? Also one other thing, would you be able to help me with a box for those subs, again I will be running 2 of them, for SPL? Thanks haemphyst!
bp
mrarff 
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Location: South Carolina, United States
Posted: December 15, 2009 at 2:15 PM / IP Logged  
Go out and get 2 alpine r-3s you won't be wastin yer money.
"That'll get ya 10 in Leavenworth,11 in Twelveworth, or 5 & 10 in Woolworth". Groucho Marx                                                      
xchrisx 
Copper - Posts: 197
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Location: Pennsylvania, United States
Posted: December 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM / IP Logged  
Im not a fan of Alpine. Id rather go with the PowerBass ones.
bp
j.reed 
Copper - Posts: 716
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Joined: January 05, 2009
Location: Arkansas, United States
Posted: December 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM / IP Logged  
You could get Kicker L5's or even L7s for that price. Would be louder and a better sub then Power Bass.
Another thing you want to consider is the space you have available. Correct enclosure volume can make and break numbers.
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xchrisx 
Copper - Posts: 197
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Posted: December 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM / IP Logged  
Ive heard 2 12" L7s and they were in an SPL truck and hitting a 142-145db it depended who was running them, the guy himself, or one of his friends, but they didn't have a clue about the system. But I want something thats going to be louder than that. With my 2 12" Audiobahn AW1200Q's I was hitting 141.xx db. so I want something thats going to be louder, I could care less for SQ. SPL is what I am going for. Also, I think Kickers are too overpriced for their stuff and for the same amount, I could do better. However I do appreciate the recommendation.
bp
j.reed 
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Location: Arkansas, United States
Posted: December 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM / IP Logged  
Actually I did a 150db with 2 of the L7s sealed in a hatchback. 153db ported legal SPL on TL. I think you would be surprised what you can gain if they are done right. If you buy off the bay it is cheap and is WAY BETTER then PowerBass both in output and quality of sound. Don't get hung up by some retard that has no idea and runs prefab or poorly designed enclosures. Hell I do outlaw 30 sec average at 150db in a Street/Daily config in my Navigator on 2 l7 15s and a pair of zx1000.1s
If you still want PowerBass i can give you a guys email. He is selling his 2 15" PowerBass subs. He got beat by me in every contest this year. He was only doing 144s with more power than me. Im sure he would sell them VERY cheap. Think he was asking $50 a sub. Only used one year. BTW he did know what he was doing. Just Goes to show what kind of subs they really are.
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xchrisx 
Copper - Posts: 197
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Posted: December 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM / IP Logged  
haha. Yeah actually I cant stand the guy, he was so arrogant and ignorant. However, I digress, anyway what was your setup in the hatch? Like box size, amp and I can get 2 12" L7 2OHM DVC for 472 + like 15 for shipping brand new from an authorized dealer.
bp
j.reed 
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Location: Arkansas, United States
Posted: December 15, 2009 at 5:24 PM / IP Logged  
xchrisx wrote:
haha. Yeah actually I cant stand the guy, he was so arrogant and ignorant. However, I digress, anyway what was your setup in the hatch? Like box size, amp and I can get 2 12" L7 2OHM DVC for 472 + like 15 for shipping brand new from an authorized dealer.
It was 2 L7s and a KX1200.1 In a '95 civic hatchback. If i did it now i would use the ZX1500.1 The enclosure was 3.25 cu.ft. per sub. ported at Fb 33Hz. In seperate chambers. Im sure it would have done even better if the tune was raised, but it was a daily beater so i didn't want to sacrifice the bit of quality it did have.
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