Well this promises to be a long post for everyone. To start, the name is Kris, I am new to the forum but not new to elctronics. I build my own computers, install car audio and in the past I have done security. I am currently designing the wiring harness for a two place Jet. Anyways, I thought I would get an alarm for my car, did some research and some shopping and got:
1. Viper 5902 Remote start alarm with colored remote screen- This system is identical to the 5901 but the remote is color.
2. DEI 545 Nite Light system- In order to make the car lights on at night and it has a longer timer for when I shut off the car. Also allows daytime running of my lights.
3. DEI 506T Glass break sensor- I plan to have tint so proximity is a no-go and the 5902 comes with a shock.
4. DEI 522T Trunk release Solenoid- Dissapointed in it's lack of strength and the fact it doesn't come with a relay, instead they send it with a switch only.
5. DEI 689M Nuetral start module- Not thinking I am going to use this. Not to mention I am wized at their installation drawing. Completely worthless.
6. DEI 516L Voice control siren(progammable)- Love the PA ability, bought to add voice to the arm. disarm, warn and full trigger outputs to make the car stand out so not everyone will ignore it in the parking lot.
7. DEI 530T 2 Window automation- My car is a coupe and I want them to roll up when I arm the car. Other features are nice like, one touch up and down windows.
8. DEI 529T 1 Window automation- Sun roof control.
This is all going in a 1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS with a manual Transmission. Now the reason for this posting. I was perturbed to find my installation manual consisted of a quick start guide and operational manual. I went to Directech.com only to find that they will not supply anyone other than their techs. Well then why the heck was I allowed to buy it from buy.com????? Since then I have been bugging the internet for Directech passwords or installaion manuals posted in .pdf's. I stumbled across the install manual for the 5901 only to find that it may not show the right connectors but the pinout scourcing and reasoning is the same. Follow this link for that install manual: http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/IG/Viper/N5702V_2008_08web.pdf
But that can only help a person out so much. So here comes the list of questions;
1. wth is this Flex relay? and why not just call it an aux relay that is integrated in the 5902 housing. I need to know what amperage it can handle if I am going to use it. I will tell you that so far I have figured it to work like (in terms of a standard automotive relay) this:
85- 5902 module controlled. The module provides it's own ground, whether for trigger or constant.
86- 5902 module controlled. The module provides it's own 12v+, whether for trigger or constant.
87- H3-2 (connector H3, pin 2) Labeled as "(+) FUSED (30A) Ignition 2/ Flex relay input 87". What I don't understand, is it ignition 2 because you can program the flex relay to be that or is it ignition 2 and split power scource with whatever you have on the flex relay? Why is it labeled as 87 if it is the input for the relay. Relay inputs are usually pin 30 unless you are using two scources for one output. The install manual for the 5901 says "this wire is the polarity feed for the ignition 2/flex relay." Not that that helps...
87A- H3-8. Labeled as "(+) Flex relay input 87A key side (if required) of flex relay". Homo say what?!?! This one doesn't make any sense.
30- H3-7 Labeled as "Ignition 2/ Flex relay output". I would have to guess this is what you get out depending on the state of the flex relay and what is attached to 87 and 87A?
Someone please tell me what is going on with this flex relay. Using it or not I would like to know what it does and why i have it.
More questions in next post.