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racing_bidule 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged  

Read carefully the last sentence in each document found on YOUR servers and please explain?

http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6610&productid=96&firmwareid=1597

http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6611&productid=96&firmwareid=1597

Follow topic on our forum: http://www.12voltdata.com/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=3148

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Velocity Motors 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM / IP Logged  
LOL, That's pretty funny. Never seen that before. Is that even legal without consent from ADS ?
Jeff
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racing_bidule 
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Posted: September 14, 2010 at 9:42 PM / IP Logged  

I don't think so but who am I to judge this...

I don't know how legal it is but it certainly lacks of morale.

Regards!

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howie ll 
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Posted: September 16, 2010 at 7:50 AM / IP Logged  
Jeff, let's face it, they get their initial info from Mitchells anyway.
I had the (UK) tech people ask me to contact another alarm manufacturer to find out why the other product worked on a certain French make whereas theirs had to go back to the car dealer for reprogramming.
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Posted: September 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM / IP Logged  
Ridiculous. If your as big a company as DEI is, why would you produce a product that tells you to go to another manufacturer's site ? IMO your shooting yourself in the foot.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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ben d. 
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Posted: September 18, 2010 at 9:56 PM / IP Logged  
doesn't surprise me if I had a dollar for every remote, brain or really anything going wrong with the new DEI products since they swapped to the responder LE and LC3 remotes...  I love DEI products but it's come down to the point where I dread finishing a remote start because i'd say 1/10 brains are dead out of the box...
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howie ll 
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Posted: September 19, 2010 at 3:57 AM / IP Logged  
I've even had internal immobiliser relay failures on Clifford G5 products for the UK market (same basis as the AG5.1) never happened before.
ben d. 
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Posted: September 19, 2010 at 8:58 PM / IP Logged  

hell just yesterday had a viper 5701 come back in that was done by my supervisor who has 11 years experience and is MECP Master (i only say this so that some DEI tool fanboy doesn't say it must have been install). 

Issue, 2 way remote not sending command or confirming, 1 way working as supposed to.

First attempt was to try and reprogram the remote.. no dice,  second attempt was to swap remotes... no good,

Put in a new antenna (just plugged in to see) still nothing...

Swapped another brain in and programmed and I'll be damn still nothing...  So I decided after checking everything to attempt a second new brain.. and tada freakin works.

Two bum brains out of the box refreaking diculous..

2008 Dodge Ram 1500
MECP Certified Advanced Installer CEA 191700
howie ll 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 at 2:09 AM / IP Logged  
They never released the 59xx series here, they claimed it was a problem with the 900mhz frequency, that's a load of rubbish, we have cordless phones, industrial remotes etc. all operating thereabouts, it was the QUALITY problems, they were too scared of comebacks.
ben d. 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM / IP Logged  
Yea dude we deal with it all the time.. but I mean what am I to do tell people I can't install their remote start because the most recognized company in convenience/security is epic failing??  escpecially when it's one of the most profitable jobs we do..
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