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a.beam.reach 
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Posted: November 10, 2010 at 11:37 PM / IP Logged  
The dome light immediately starts to dim once I close the door. Takes about 2-3 seconds to completely go out which would be a tolerable time to wait for me to finish the 'reservation' mode process.
a.beam.reach 
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Posted: November 12, 2010 at 12:23 AM / IP Logged  
I went to Radio Shack after work today to get all the stuff I needed to complete the project.
For relays. . . . all they had were 40a SPST relays which I assume will work since I don't require the 87a pin for any of my needs. . . . . Am I correct? They did not have a 10A SPDT / SPST relay which was what I was planning on using for the clutch bypass. 1.) Can I use a 30 or 40 amp SPST? I assume the 30 or 40 just means up to and including 30 or 40 amps?   OR. . . . can anyone confirm the suspicion that a relay is not actually required and I can wire the GWR wire straight to the BROWN / yellow wire at the clutch switch as described in the previous posts? I appreciate kreg357's suggestion (and all his other help) that he believes that most newer Ultra Start units have circuit overload protection for their low current outputs but I would love to hear from someone that has actually done this bypass. I tried to find confirmation of said circuit overload protection on their literature to no avail.
On a strange side note. . . .   Ultra Starters phone number as displayed on their box goes to some kind of people chat / dating hotline. . . . I thought I just dialed wrong buy no. . ..   each time I dial . . .. it's the same. I got more than I bargained for when I purchased this RS!
Radio Shack had the two 1N4001 diodes I need.
I need a 330 and 820 Ohm resistor.   They had 330 Ohm resistors with amp capacities of 1/4 , 1/2, and 1 amp. Which amperage resistor should I get? They did not however have any 820 Ohm resistors. Any suggestions?
Thanks again for any and all help.
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Posted: November 12, 2010 at 4:09 AM / IP Logged  

The SPST relays will work as long as Pin 87A is not required.  The 40A capacity is OK, just overkill.  A 10A relay is just a little smaller. Some of the full line auto stores will carry the relays.

The only place I could find the Ultra Start "overload protection" statement was on the info for a u1272, 3rd paprgraph down :  http://www.ultrastarters.com/Feature_Sheets/PRO_Feature%20Sheets%20PDF/1272XR-PRO.pdf

While there are sources for that exact size resistor, if you are in a hurry, buy 2 resister that add up to the value you need and connect them is series.  Look for a 150 ohm and a 680 ohm.  That will give you 830, which should be close enough.  1/2 watt is fine.  ( If you get the 5 Packs, use your meter to find the lowest ohm in each pack to get even closer.)

Here is a to another way to buy pass a clutch using a relay.  Use your DMM to "figure out" the clutch switch and wire accordingly.   https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=123887&KW=kreg357

Most major manufactures do not give Tech Support to DIYers, only authorized dealers. 

Soldering is fun!
a.beam.reach 
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Posted: November 13, 2010 at 8:43 PM / IP Logged  
Well thanks to several of you. . . .. The installation went reasonably well today. My vehicle starts remotely and locks and unlocks. . . . all the things I thought might be challenging were no problem. . . .. BUT I can not find the - horn wire or + Parking light wire. According to the wiring charts the - horn wire should be black / red. As shown below there were only two wires that are black with what might pass as a red stripe but both are + wires. I tried a couple of the smaller gauge wires randomly with no success either.    Any ideas?
2003 ram manual remote start ultra start - Page 2 -- posted image.
2003 ram manual remote start ultra start - Page 2 -- posted image.
The parking light wire is supposed to be black / yellow and under the relay station under the hood. It is quite a bunch of wires but I did not see a definitive black with yellow. . . . though there are several dark blue with yellow. I thought about just tapping into the parking light relay above (just soldering to the appropriate pin) any ideas what pin I would connect to?
Thanks again for all your help.
a.beam.reach 
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Posted: November 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM / IP Logged  
OK . . . . I have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out the horn wire. . . I tested every wire and for the ones that tested negative I clipped them and tried the horn. . .. no dice. So I went back to the black / red wire (which is supposed to be the correct wire according to the diagrams. . . . this is the one I previously mentioned tested positive instead of negative as it should). . .. .   and I clipped it and it is indeed the horn wire. It is very much a positive wire though and my output from my RS is negative. Is the below diagram the appropriate wiring for a relay to reverse the polarity?
2003 ram manual remote start ultra start - Page 2 -- posted image.
I checked several diagrams and they all show the horn should be negative. Is it really, really weird that mine is positive? Am I missing something?
I can't find the correct positive wire for the parking light (my output is positive) which is under the relay center in the engine compartment. . . .. there are so many wires and they are hard to get to so I am going to just wire the negative wire in the cab. Is this the correct diagram:
2003 ram manual remote start ultra start - Page 2 -- posted image.
My output from the RS is fused at 10 amps. Can I just cut that fuse out or should I leave it in?
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