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buddholly

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 2:33 PM / IP Logged

2nd ACC is required on 06 and up.

There is no starter wire because some of these will crank when it sees that ACC has dropped out. I would run a starter wire in all of them regardless.

The relay should be wired like this:

85 - Status

86 - 1st ACC

87 - 12V

30 - to 2nd ACC

Do you have an aftermarket radio or anything hardwired to your power in there that might not be shutting down?

buddholly

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 2:34 PM / IP Logged

or better yet start testing for current draw yourself you would be amazed how many people do this the wrong way.

ronhapanowicz@a

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM / IP Logged

No additional aftermarket devices. You suggested to connect the starter wires? Being connect H3/4 to Envoy Yellow iginition? And swap the relay and test for proper operation.

I agree with starting my own draw test. Already built the set up and have a Fluke meter with 10 amp capacity.

Thanks for your suggestions.

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howie ll

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM / IP Logged

You've ALL bloody well missed the point here.

Look at our poster's first post, at the bottom, he's wired his effing relay coil from the GWA orange wire and a 12V+ constant!.

Guess what..that coil stays on while the alarm is on drawing just over an amp = flat battery in approx 10 hours. He obviously doesn't know his A from his Elbow but you Kreg and Bud should know better.

buddholly

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 3:55 PM / IP Logged

h2/12 is not GWA it's (-) Acc Output

howie ll

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 4:47 PM / IP Logged

The poster wrote orange! My only excuse is they've never sold these products officially in Europe and before DEI pulled out I only got to see a prototype 5901 about 3 years ago.

ronhapanowicz@a

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 6:18 PM / IP Logged

To clarify. H1/12 Orange is GWA and is not connected. I wish it was then it would be an easy fix.

Actually H2/12 Orange is (-) 200ma Accessory Output and that is connected to the relay.

ronhapanowicz@a

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 6:24 PM / IP Logged

Following on one idea that the BCM and other modules are still alive because the XK01 is preventing them from sleeping, is there any merit to connect the XK01 Brown GWR to H2/10 Blue (-) 200ma Status Output to put the XK01 to sleep when the alarm is active. Some posters suggest this is necessary/helpful even though the 5902 and XK01 are connected via the 4 pin DEI link cable?

oldspark

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Posted: April 23, 2011 at 7:57 PM / IP Logged

So the relay Howard refers to is NOT energised, nor +ve to #85 and a grounded or solid-state connection to #86?

I just want to make sure after reading

ronhapanowicz@a wrote:

So far nobody has any ideas what is killing the battery.

which is completely wrong.

ronhapanowicz@a

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Posted: April 24, 2011 at 1:40 AM / IP Logged

Howie why so rude? "He obviously doesn't know his A from his Elbow but you Kreg and Bud should know better." When your have been wrong so many times.

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