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kreg357 
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Posted: May 19, 2011 at 3:43 PM / IP Logged  

Hard to say.  Exactly which wires from the CM4200 do you have connected and to which vehicle wires are they connected?

As mentioned earlier, all vehicle wires should be located, tested and verified.  Then proper connections ( soldered ) should be made to all necessary wires.  Then Tach Learn and testing.   Most remote start brains are fairly well fused and protected but truly heinous mis-wiring can kill them.

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Posted: May 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM / IP Logged  
Every wire in CN1 is connected. I have tested for continuity in them all. I turned the starter by connecting my hot red wire to the jeep starter wire and located the ignition wire on the column.
The only other wire connected is the yellow/black to tachometer.
The yellow wire on the harness is connected to the yellow wire CN1.
Red harness is connected to the two red wires on the unit.
Ground is connected to dash.
Parking light is connected to my test light, which worked for tachometer tests.
Accessory has been connected to purple on the harness. I should add that there was a remote start on this vehicle at some time because there are aftermarket clips on each of these wires.
There are batteries in the remote, the light works.
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 Is the antenna harness and antenna plugged in? 

What type of remotes?  Did you program the remotes to the brain? 

Does the unit respond ( by blinking the test light ) to a lock or unlock button press? 

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the unit doesn't respond to the remote at all, the antenna is plugged in. I didn't program the remote to the unit, wasn't aware that needed to be done
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ps. the remote came with the module.
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For a four button one way remote:

1. Turn the key to ON then OFF five times within seven seconds.  The Parking Lights should flash once.

2. Press the Lock button once on the first FOB.  The Parking Lights should flash once.

3. Repeat step 2 for the second remote FOB.  ( Three FOB's max. )

4. Wait a few seconds and the Parking Lights should flash twice.  Programming sequence ended.

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finally some progress. I followed step 1, but the parking lights flashed once and then in a couple seconds flashed twice
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Posted: May 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM / IP Logged  

There is a ~5 second time limit between step 1 and 2, and 2 and 3...

After the parking lights flash once, quickly start pressing lock on the remotes.

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Kreg, thanks for the advise. The system works, though oddly enough the engine only turns on for about ten seconds then quits then restarts repeating like that.
The other question I had is, should both the ignition and starter circuits be wired directly to the unit as they are, or should a relay be placed between? Thanks.
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Posted: May 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM / IP Logged  

The thick CN1 wires should be directly connected to the Jeeps ignition wires, no relays required.  There are internal relays in the brain.  The pre-wired external Starter Kill relay is optional if you desire that feature.

The engine turning off after 10 seconds might mean you should re-learn the Tach signal at a normal, warm engine, slow idle. If necessary you can even re-learn the Tach with the trans in reverse for an even slower idle...

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