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howie ll 
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Posted: June 03, 2011 at 5:46 PM / IP Logged  
Funnily enough I'm in Borehamwood, but the South Coast got even more snow than London this winter, I use a remote start all the time, but a proper brand, not the rubbish you're trying to install, I bet it won't even work in ANY aspect.
jgw01 
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Im not installing it for the remote start, its not really for the alarm either,  just the keyless entry. My car is a 96 Accord, there is no commercial immobiliser bypass for it. Only option would be to hide a spare near ignition. (A spare key that I don't have).

Before you ask why I need the ignition kill, well I don't, but I am a mechanic who is trying to learn the electronics of cars, so its more of a learning thing to be honest.

I'm in Crawley (on the better side of London).

howie ll 
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I think you're missing my point, you will have a frustrating time trying to make it work. N.B. There are a few by-passes available here for your Honda, but what's wrong with pulling the Honda badge on your key and removing the RFI chip?
My recommendation would be to junk that POS, install a Clifford 650 Mkll
with Intellistart V and have an easy time of it. If no remote start get a Viper 1002, it will work a treat.
A couple of pointers;
remove the gauges and pick up door trigger and trunk (boot) trigger from the NEG. switched sides of the warning lights and whilst you've got the gauges out, see if you get the alarm brain (brain? that's an oxymoron in this case) behind the instruments, much harder to get at by a villain.
Ref: Crawley and this last winter, how long was Gatwick closed for?
jgw01 
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Posted: June 03, 2011 at 6:33 PM / IP Logged  

Taking apart the key is never wise when its the only one. The alarm is installed already its just not all hooked up. The alarm is behind cigarette lighter (you can see it with radio removed but not reach it). It had a factory alarm in the boot so I used the existing wires by pulling them back through to the front. The keyless entry works, door trigger works, siren works, indicators flash, remote start works (with key next to ignition).

I agree the alarm is rubbish but my car is 15 years old, the worst thing about it is when the alarm is going of the "brain" makes a constant clicking noise similar to indicator clicks. I would have to hope that anyone wanting to steal my car is deaf so they cant hear the brain.

You mentioned the boot trigger, my car is cable operated i presume there is no workaround/gadget available to use this feature.

Seeing as you appear to be an expert, why did Honda install their alarms in the boot but then not bother to alarm the boot. Anyone can force open the boot and rip the alarm without it going of.

jgw01 
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oh and I work at Gatwick; Airport closed = day off, day off = stay at home, stay at home = no need to use car, no need to use car = no need to use remote start.

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howie ll 
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That's why we installed (decent) alarms over factory alarms until quite recently. Until 05, the Honda alarms never even had interior space (ultrasonic or proximity) detection.
Don't confuse boot trigger (tells you when it's been opened) with boot release. Since about 2000 as far as I know, all cars made for the US markets have a mandatory ELECTRIC (solenoid) boot release.
jgw01 
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You confuse me with every post. When I mentioned boot trigger I was reffering to factory alarm. When I mention boot release I was reffering to the button on the key fob that opens the boot.

Also what is link between my accord and an American car?

The Honda Accord was fully built and designed in the UK and is totally different to the US and Jap versions. So why mention America?

howie ll 
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Sorry if I confuse you, I thought at one point you mentioned boot trigger as triggering the unlock relay, boot trigger as in door and bonnet (hood) triggers simply tell us when a boot or door or bonnet is opened.
Your car is still an Accord as was the at the time similar US model and the Rover 600.
Euro and American versions have been drifting apart since 2005.
Ref solenoid boot/hatch release, ENGLISH build CRVs have had them since the late 90s.
Don't try and lecture me on different builds, for various reasons I'm the go to car and "obscure foreign cars" that turn up in the USrelay diagram for alarm - Page 2 -- posted image.
jgw01 
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Sorry my mistake, should have re read my post, I did say boot trigger but meant boot release.

jgw01 
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The aerodeck version is a US copy, the sedan is 90% different, the only things the same are the standard Honda range products.

The lights are different, the dash is different, the wiring and colours are different. UK version came with immobiliser US did not. US has central locking module in door, UK is in boot. US version has lights in bumper, windows/switches are totally different, Radio, clock, Gear lever is totally different, handbrake/ center console is totally different, seats are totally different, under the bonnet everything is different, I could go on. The are two totally different cars.

From Honda site

The launch of the fifth generation also marked the first time Honda marketed a Europe-only Accord model, made in its Swindon factory in the United Kingdom. The European Accord sedan was not related directly to the CD Accords, but rather to the previous CB Accord, as it was a slightly reworked version of the Honda Ascot Innova. The Swindon-built Accord sedan was accompanied in European markets by the coupe and Aerodeck estate models imported from the U.S.. Concurrently, the British Rover Group, Honda's partner at that time, launched a model called the Rover 600, which was developed together with the European Accord sedan and which under the skin, are closely resembled.

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