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howie ll

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Posted: June 15, 2011 at 6:20 PM / IP Logged

Oh, OK then, Spal and MES use either a blue or black relay, double size with 6 terminals set out in standard Bosch pattern.

The nasty Taiwanese copies use an (unreliable, I've had some DOA) black relay with the tenminals in a straight line.

tayler

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Posted: June 16, 2011 at 7:13 AM / IP Logged

My actuators are of the two wire variety. I connect the blue and green wires to the brains of the autopage unit and it will wiggle a little but nothing resembeling a lock or unlock. The old unit has been found and removed as it did not work reliably. Sometimes it would and some times it would not. That is the reason i'm here posting about the autopage unit I bought to replace it.

UPDATE: I took the actuator off the door to relieve it of the load and they still slide. They just seem weak. Are they just worn out? They are made by PARADA as was the old keyless entry unit.

howie ll

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Posted: June 16, 2011 at 9:04 AM / IP Logged

OK. Go to the relay section on this site, sub section, door locks, adding actuators. That will show you the correct diagram and what you need.

howie ll

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Posted: June 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM / IP Logged

This is my modified IMO more correct version, 2 relays, 2 1N4004 diodes or use a 451 module from DEI, it might even plug strait in.

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tayler

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Posted: June 16, 2011 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged

I did mention that I have an autopage unit with actuator +/- out. There is no lock relays in my truck. Because there were none there to begin with, only an after market PARADA unit. I have replace the Parada unit with the autopage unit. It is my understanding that the autopage unit will power actuators to throw the locks. However it does not do this under a load. It throws the actuator with no load just fine. The actuators are just to weak with this unit (autopage).

Is there an actuator that works well with the autopage unit? I.E. if you are an autopage shop what actuator do you use with the system? This is all I want to know.

Thanks,

Tayler

howie ll

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Posted: June 17, 2011 at 1:04 AM / IP Logged

How many lock wires does this Autopage unit have?

You haven't mentioned which model.

There's NO point in changing the actuators at this point till we know.

howie ll

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Posted: June 17, 2011 at 1:51 AM / IP Logged

Sorry, scrub last comment, didn't look at your original headline.

I've just looked through the install guide, 2 low current lock wires..

You will need the two relays as per diagram I posted before for ANY actuators.

tayler

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Posted: June 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM / IP Logged

I'm sure you're doing a great job of explaining this but I don't understand.

The low volt wires are only a trigger for the relay that sends the right amount of oomff to the actuator? If so I get it now and that makes perfect sence.

Now The relays don't have a slot to plug into in my vehicle. If they do I don't know where they are. I would think that GMC has a standard block for all sierras but I looked in three different locations for a relay or slot marked pwr/lock and there are no open slots. Sooooo the best bet would be for the 451 module?

Thanks again,

Tayler

howie ll

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Posted: June 17, 2011 at 3:23 PM / IP Logged

Exactly. So now go back to the diagram I posted but please, low current not low voltage, it's all 12volts, I'm not having a real go, it's just confusing.

tayler

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Posted: June 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM / IP Logged

OK no 451 unit available in my area. So two realys wired as advertised and it works. This thread has left my "DD" noobies showing...........thanks for your help.

Oh and I was only missing the module for the passkey2 by-pass. It will start from your house now.

Do you think it would be advisable to carry a fire exstinguisher for a week ot two......just in case?

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