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still_walkin 
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 7:36 PM / IP Logged  
ok hear the deal im lighting the load in the trunk so im thinking from going from 2- 12" alpine type r 2-ohm to either 2 alpine type r size 8" or 10". my thought for going to a size smaller is i want to put the shallow mount subs in the rear doors of my cadillac .on the car has fiberglass panels(yea its gonna vibrate) so what are all y'all thoughts. or should i just keep my 12s and go with fiberglass enclosures
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lspker 
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 7:59 PM / IP Logged  

depends on what your willing to give up.  If you like the sound, but are willing to give up some volume, just use one 12.  Going to 2 10 is not going to save much wieght unless box is signifcantly smaller.  8".......

A fiberglass box built with lightweight core material will save weight but $$$$$

The shallow mounts won't give you the same performance, but they will help with mid base, and then the 12 for lower end.

Or just fill truck with helium.

still_walkin 
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 8:08 PM / IP Logged  
no what i ment by 8 or 10" is shallow subs. i ws thinking of putting the shallow subs one in each rear door. also fo fiberglass for an enclosure i was going to try and do it myself
1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 9:33 PM / IP Logged  
It may be just me, but if I had my choice between a conventional 6" woofer or a 12" flat, give me the 6"
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 10:24 PM / IP Logged  
i am an idiot wrote:
It may be just me, but if I had my choice between a conventional 6" woofer or a 12" flat, give me the 6"
Nope. It ain't just you! Flat woofers nearly ALWAYS exhibit terrible distortion curves. Stick with the conventional drivers.
It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."
still_walkin 
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM / IP Logged  
thanks guys its that those subs weigh about 30lbs i think and the box is 100 so im trying to lighten the load , fiberglass is an alternative . i was looking for a picture example of a sub enclosure that fits from the wheel well to the rear end of the car and i can fit one on each side. vie been told and heard these subs perform better in ported/vented than sealed has anyone designed or say a one sub enclosure that is vented in fiberglass looking for example to build upon
1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
still_walkin 
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Posted: June 23, 2011 at 10:49 PM / IP Logged  
what i have now is
3 audiobahn a2002t amps for the front/rear/door
1 audiobahn a2200hct for the subs
im replacing the 3 with
2 Alpine MRP-F300 for the front/rear/door
1 Alpine MRP-m2000 for the subs
1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
Ravendarat 
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Posted: June 24, 2011 at 12:37 AM / IP Logged  
I have always hated shallow subs and have also hated alpine but the new type r shallow mount stuff has given me nothing but fantastic results so far. Some what pricy in comparison but they work well.
double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer
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Posted: June 24, 2011 at 9:05 PM / IP Logged  

My customers are the most abusive people on the planet.  Have you had any failures at all?  We may have to try them.

still_walkin 
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Posted: June 28, 2011 at 4:28 AM / IP Logged  

idk i might just stick with the traditional subs but the boxes are heavy so im going to try and deign my first fiberglass box this weekend

1993 sdv
Alpine 4x6 6x9 5 1/4 swr-10d4
alpine v60
12.5 VGA flip down
Nettop pc w/10" touch screen
78nova
5-re audio 5x7 ,10" sub &
Xtx-500.5
"Take the faceplate off get the jumperpack"
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