inexpensive subs

kicker amps arent cheap but i dont care if it looks good on the inside or if the use good components because in my experience they break way too easily. and ive had my fill of cvr subs. yea they sound ok but they cant handle any abuse. and thanks to the geniuses at the kicker marketing dept durability is why a lot of people flock to kicker only to be let down by the cvr and L5. common problems ive seen on a regular basis are the cones coming unglued from the voice coil, the voice coil coming unwound when it gets a little hot, the stitched surround coming unstitched, and the cone likes to crack under stress (mainly the square woofers but ive seen the round cones crack too).

thedirt520 wrote: I blew alot of cvr 12s in my days, but when I switched to 15s (had 6 sets so far) I've never blown one, had my pair now for 3 years, didn't break them in just thru them in and turned them up

There's no such thing as "breaking in" to prevent damage. Period. Here's the best thread I've seen discussed here... From that thread:

DYohn wrote: You folks may be misinterpreting what speaker break-in is all about. It is not some magical thing that is necessary for the drivers to operate properly, it is simply a natural phenomenon that occurs in ALL loudspeakers whether you like it or not as they are used. The soft parts become more compliant and the speaker operates better, moves more freely, sounds better, etc. It is not a myth and it is not BS it is physics. Period.

All your experience proves is that you got it close enough to right the first time, it does not prove anything at all about the reliability or durability of your chosen woofer.It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

Well I bought the Niche Audio 15"s, and so far I am as happy as a "nymph in a brothel" with them.

I broke them in for all of about 10 minutes and just couldn't stand it any longer, turned on the sound meter and cranked em' up. They still sound good, and if they go bad, I get new ones free of charge within 2 years. and it's local, no waiting !!!!!!!!!

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thedirt520 wrote: I'm aware what the break in period is for and why it's important, all I was stating was what I've encounter from using my subs

At the risk of sounding like a dick, clearly you don't know what break in is or else you wouldn't have made the previous statement about how you didn't "break in your subs, you just threw em in and ran em". You did "break them in" because you used them and the materials becoming softer and looser over time just from using them. There is no special way to do it, there is no special rule about playing them at moderate volumes for the first 30 hours or any of that garbage. Lastly its not important, its gonna happen no matter what, regardless of what you do within reason. As was the quote posted above you explained this and that thread that was linked to in that same post is a great discussion of all this and something anyone new, or anyone into this as a big time hobby or job, should read.double-secret reverse-osmosis speaker-cone-induced high-level interference distortion, Its a killer