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04nata

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Posted: February 16, 2012 at 9:41 AM / IP Logged

What is the minimum lbs. rating of pull that will get the job done for a small import car?

I see 11lbs - 15lbs - 35lbs all the way up to 100lbs and piced accordingly, so I don't want to spend more than I have to, but I also want it to work.

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

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OhioGen 350a alt

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metz35

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Location: Pennsylvania, United States

Posted: February 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM / IP Logged

Most foreign cars you can get away with light weight solenoids .

If you want an exact weight.

Use a fish scale attach to door handle and pull. See how many pounds it takes and buy accordingly . Bumping a few pounds to take in age-ing cold weather ect...

04nata

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Posted: February 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM / IP Logged

I will do the fish scale test, (great idea)

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

04nata

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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 11:54 AM / IP Logged

so I got the 40lb solenoid, and my alarm has a negative output channel availiable, do I need a relay or do I wire the positive from the solenoid to constant 12 volts (when key is off) and then just attach the negative from the solenoid to the negative output on the alarm?

I was getting really confused looking therough the relay wiring database, so if I do need a relay will you please point me or post here, how I need to wire it.

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

tedmond

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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM / IP Logged

i wire them as black to ground, red will be triggered by a relay

85 - ground output from alarm (example aux1)

86 - constant 12v

87 - constant 12v

30 - to positive wire on solenoid.

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04nata

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Joined: April 22, 2008

Posted: February 21, 2012 at 1:44 PM / IP Logged

can those 2 positive's (86 & 87) be the same wire just jumped?

and should that go straight to the battery since it came with a 35amp fuse? or I could run it back to my amps.

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

metz35

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Location: Pennsylvania, United States

Posted: February 21, 2012 at 1:46 PM / IP Logged

They can be jumped 86 just powers the relay.

Go to the battery

04nata

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Posted: February 21, 2012 at 1:53 PM / IP Logged

awesome, thanx for the quick responses !

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

04nata

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Joined: April 22, 2008

Posted: February 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM / IP Logged

So I got it all wired up and working, but only like every 3rd try that it pops. I put a door popper spring on. Could that be an issue? Cuz without the spring it only kicked out part way and was still latched. I also read somewhere that I may be supposed to have a diode on the relay to prevent spikes?

also, your description of the relay hookup varies slightly from what I did find tonite on the site, I assume that both will do the same with the same current and effect?

door pop solenoid -- posted image.

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

04nata

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Posted: February 25, 2012 at 8:04 PM / IP Logged

04nata wrote:

also, your description of the relay hookup varies slightly from what I did find tonite on the site, I assume that both will do the same with the same current and effect?

door pop solenoid -- posted image.

anybody ?

2004 Hyundai Sonata

Kenwood KDC-X599 HU

2-Sundown X-18D4

2-SQ Q4500.1

2-SQ Q90.4

1-Massive DBX4

8-Niche 5.25 mids

8-Niche Tweeters

4-Skar 8" mid-bass

OhioGen 220a alt

OhioGen 350a alt

156.0

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