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01ws6/tamu

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Posted: February 27, 2012 at 7:32 PM / IP Logged

I went through all of the diagnostics the first time everything said bad alarm. You can jump 12V to the siren out and you will get a chirp. Read it with a DMM and no output on brown siren out from the alarm brain with siren disconnected. I called the place I got the alarm from they said no problem and sent me another one just got it back in today. Same exact problem as above it never even try's to let out a chirp shriek or nothing. Or am I getting a run on crap alarms.

Now I did install an additional siren inside the cab as I have many times in the past on customers vehicles back when I did this for a living and didn't have any problems. I've only been out the last 3 years though. Could the two siren's be instantly frying the siren output.

Thanks for thoughts ideas etc

itsyuk

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Posted: February 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM / IP Logged

most dei units say 1 amp max in the brown. a 514 pulls about 1 so if you have two 514 sirens you might be pushing it.

yuk

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01ws6/tamu

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Posted: February 28, 2012 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged

Yep used two of the 514 sirens in parallel. damm I figured I'd at least get bit of chirp out before it surrendered if that is the case. Guess we'll go for #3 and one siren and see if that does it.

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Posted: February 28, 2012 at 7:26 PM / IP Logged

definately try a single siren that you know works. before you accept that its a loss.

sometimes they will push 2 514s and sometimes they die.

i like to have the alarm power a 4pdt relay. i hook extra sirens from the relay.and fuse each with a 2.5 amp fuse. that way if its going off and someone cuts the siren wire (that might easily blow the alarm circuit).

it just pops the fuse for that siren and the others still wail.

alarm makers should have siren fuses inline..... but then if they did, you might not go alarm shopping soon.

they fuse the parking light wire.......hmmmm. they dont even list current draws on the box.

BTW...

DEI says 1 amp (550ESP) is the max load that should be used on the siren wire ...

revenger siren 1.1 amps

pain generator .22 amps

5 generic minisirens(pain generators) simultaniously 1.1 amps

yuk

quiet rural missouri, near KC.

If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.

tedmond

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Posted: February 28, 2012 at 8:28 PM / IP Logged

this may sound dumb, but have you checked if the system is in "silent" mode?

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01ws6/tamu

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Posted: February 29, 2012 at 8:16 PM / IP Logged

It says its not. I cant even get a chirp or reading on a dmm when you try to put it into programming menu mode.

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Posted: February 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM / IP Logged

depending the meter you have, most meters wont even register that siren chirp, as the DMM cannot read that quick. try to get another brain OR just use the horn output with a relay, set for constant output when triggered.

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Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:58 PM / IP Logged

what if you used the horn output setting with a 528T set to the max and used a siren on IT?

yuk

quiet rural missouri, near KC.

If your system moves you physically and not emotionally, you have wasted your money.

itsyuk

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Posted: February 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM / IP Logged

of course you would shut OFF the confirmation chirps all together.

yuk

quiet rural missouri, near KC.

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Posted: March 01, 2012 at 1:31 PM / IP Logged

I haven't looked in depth for the new viper stuff, but you might be able to program the horn to function on lock/unlock/trunk/panic. I'm not certain, but i dont see why they wouldnt have it.

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