02 Pontiac Grand Prix, Viper 5704

Hey guys I'm new here and have just purchased a viper 5704 alarm with remote start. I also go the bypass module Xpresskit xk05, I did a lot of research before coming here and buying my alarm. Can someone just double check for me that I got a compatible bypass module? It says in the xk05 website that my car is compatible with v1.00 firmware. I got the bypass module and alarm on eBay. The bypass module says it shipped with the latest firmware which I suppose builds off of the firmware versions before it so there should be no need to flash the old version? Correct?

The XK05 bypass module can be flashed with many ( 11 ) different firmware "flavors"to support many different vehicle applications.  Your '02 GP needs PKG3 firmware and the current version is V1.0.  The XK05 box and module should have a stickerthat shows the firmware that was factory loaded.  Any one with internet accessand the XKLoader USB cable can change that.  The only way to know or sure exactlywhich firmware / version that is currently loaded is to use the XKLoader cableand check.  Here is a link for more info and the install guides for the XK05 :  http://www.xpresskit.com/product.aspx?productid=346Soldering is fun!

I got xkloader2 usb, off eBay that's all they had. That will work just fine to flash my firmware, right?

Absolutely.   The XKLoader2 cable is the newer version that will handle the new DB-ALL module plus all the older modules.   BTW, good decision to get the XKLoader cable.       

Here is a link to DEI to download the software to support the XKLoader2  :  http://www.xpresskit.com/XpressVIP4.aspx  The firmware selection and flash process is pretty straight forward.   You can change / update the module firmware as often as you wish.

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okay 1 more question about the bypass module. I've heard that if it's hooked up incorrectly on some vehicles it will trip the service anti theft system error code if you hook it up to the wrong wire. I'm not sure which wire it is on my car but is there a correct and incorrect wire to prevent this code from popping up on my dashboard? also I have not been able to find any good wiring diagrams for the viper 5704 alarm system and remote start. I found a good wiring diagram for my car, just have not found a good diagram for the alarm itself. that way I could match everything up before I do the install. And hopefully this will help others in the future :-)

The XK05 w/PKG3 firmware install guide has a good diagram of the wires

and connections required.  The PK3 connector at the ignition switch shouldbe no problem to locate and the guide lists all the wires on that connector.You should have no problems if you follow that diagram exactly and solder / insulate all the connections properly.

The Viper 5704 should have come with a Quick Reference Guide.  The complete

install guide is only distributed to authorized dealers / installers.  Checkin the Downloads section for the complete install guide.  If you have thelatest 5704 there could be some differences.  Typically the wire colors,name designation and wire function stay the same, just its connector / pin location might change.

Your plan is excellent.  Locate and download several wire guide lists from

all available sources.  Compare them to be ready for any conflicting info.Preparation is the key to a successful installation.  Make up a chart with the Viper to vehicle, Viper to XK05 bypass and XK05 bypass to vehicle connections listed.  You can post it here for a check by other forum members and get some good input / feedback and possibly some tips form prior experience.

During the actual install, verify all wires with a Digital Multi Meter prior

to soldering and making the connection.  ( With the exception of the Blue PK3Data wire.)

You will need 2 diodes to connect the alarm to the door triggers and possibly

a relay for the trunk release ( the Vipers Trunk Release output is (-) ). Here is a note from DEI concerning the trunk release :On vehicles with keyless entry, can also use brown (-) at the trunk release

relay to the left of the steering column.

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Could someone post the type of diodes that I will need and the relay I will need? And possibly how I will have to hook them up?

The diodes are standard blocking diodes, like the 1N4004 that should be

available at RadioShack.  Here is a link to the diode isolation diagrams : https://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp  The diagram on the left is correct for your application with negative door triggers.  BulldogSecurity also has a door trigger isolation diagram that is for 4 doors : http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/diagrams/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_GRAND-PRIX_(-)%20NEGATIVE%20DOOR%20PIN%20ISOLATION%20CIRCUIT.pdf

If you use the Vipers (-) 200mA Trunk Release output for the G.P.'s

(+) BLACK/ White wire at the trunk release switch, use a standard 30/40ASPDT Bosch style relay.  All the relay is doing is converting the Vipers (-) output to a (+) output the G.P. needs.  Here is a diagram : https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page1.asp#n2p  Both diagrams are the samebut the lower one is more appropriately labeled for your application.  Fuseat 10 Amps.

As you can see, most all the information you need is readily available on

this site, with the various wiring guides or via an internet search.

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KM, I couldn't make the Bulldog link, is that that a multi diode sleep circuit configuration, if so Ford DEI 1076 in the Downloads/Manuals section above will show it. Also a comment as if I would, even the installer guides for the new ranges are woefully inadequate, they don't have the typos and wrongly listed wires, they just don't explain what things are for!

Hi, Howard!  Thanks for catching the link problem.  It was just the standard (-)

door pin isolation diagram but for 4 doors instead of just 2 doors.  The OP'sG.P. only has 2 doors anyway but it was a part of Bulldogs wire guide for theG.P.  This is a link to Bulldog Security where you can look up the G.P. and viewthat door pin isolation link and all their wire info : http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.asp

I concur on you views about the newer DEI / Viper Install Guides.  They are

very brief and do not give any explanations.  Think I recently recommendedto another member to download the older guides for a more detailed descriptionof wire functions and programming options ( 5901 vs 5904, etc ).

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